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Honda Civic Coupe vs. Scion tC

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Re: apples to apples [thegraduate] by karport
Sep 11, 2006 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 11, 2006 1:00 pm)

What the Civic, TC, and for that matter the Eclipse have in common is that they are 2 door coupes. The differences vary from engine size to weight. The civic is a lighter car with a tuned transmission that produces higher MPG's. The difference in weight is the greatest factor in better gas mileage. If you are an aggressive driv er that mileage advantage will not occurr. If you care about ride quality the added weight of the TC is a plus since the body will provide a more solid feel.
 
The difference in fuel cost is not that significant between the TC and Civic in realistic conditions. We have both cars in my house hold.
 
Both cars are first rate and it comes down to personal taste.
 
Regarding the comment on tires in the winter, no low profile regular tire is good in snow. For that you need real snow tires (all weather tires is a marketing not performance designation).
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Re: apples to apples [karport] by thegraduate
Sep 11, 2006 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: karport (Sep 11, 2006 3:22 pm)

Regarding the comment on tires in the winter, no low profile regular tire is good in snow. For that you need real snow tires (all weather tires is a marketing not performance designation).
 
I didn't see a comment about snow tires, just tire size
 
And with tire size, usually the larger the wheel and the lower the profile of tire, the cost goes up.
 
For example, a 215/65 16 tire will likely be cheaper than a 215/50 17 tire.
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Re: apples to apples [karport] by akin242002
Dec 10, 2006 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: karport (Sep 11, 2006 3:22 pm)

I do not agree with the statement that "Fuel cost is not that significant between the TC and the Civic in realist conditions."
 
If you have one driver with a specific driving style (fast/slow or smooth/wild), the car's miles per gallon should be the difference in fuel cost (not the driver). If multiple people with multiple driving styles drive the same 2 cars, then you will not be able to see the difference.
 
If you follow the owner's manual on how to maximize your MPG, you will definitely see the 10 MPG difference that the Honda Civic has on the Scion TC (40 MPG Highway compared to 30 MPG Highway with an automatic DX). Also, the Scion TC can be deceptive in its MPG because it has a larger fuel tank than the Civic (14.5 compared to 13.2).
 
When it is compared on looks alone, the Scion TC is a clear cut winner in my opinion!
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Re: apples to apples [thinker_] by doan4u
Dec 11, 2006 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: thinker_ (Sep 09, 2006 1:09 pm)

"tC has keyless entry; LX doesn't."
False, LX has keyless entry, mine do
  
"tc has one touch power up and down driver and passenger windows; LX has only driver one touch up and down."
False, Driver have both, mine do
  
"LX has side airbags standard; tc doesn't."
True, plus the front, and corner panel
 
"Putting these things on an LX or upgrading to EX puts the price of Civic well above price of tC"
True and False, Mine was less than tC, base on the price online
 
Plus: foglight, auxilary jack, mud guard, 12 cd changer (add labor/cost for $400), courtesy light, sirius radio, navigation systems (add myself for $300), custom fit door handle light ($10)
 
tC is not a bad looking car. My cousin drive a tC. The two good thing I see that my car doesn't have was the sunroof, alloy wheel
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Re: apples to apples [doan4u] by thegraduate
Dec 11, 2006 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: doan4u (Dec 11, 2006 7:12 am)

"tc has one touch power up and down driver and passenger windows; LX has only driver one touch up and down."
False, Driver have both, mine do

 
I'm afraid you didn't understand this part, as my dad has an EX (2007 Sedan) and even it only has driver auto up/down, not passenger side as well.
 
Everything else is right.
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TC is a Great Eye Candy, Civic is substance by akin242002
Dec 13, 2006 (5:57 am)
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Most car people I know will tell anyone the Scion TC looks way better than the Honda Civic, and a little bit better than the Civic Si. This census of opinions stays consistent with the interior and exterior of the Scion TC. It is a clear cut winner in terms of looks and flash, in my opinion.
 
When it comes to performance, the regular Civic (DX-EX) outperforms the Scion TC in breaking distance, turning radius, miles per gallon, and reliability. The only exception is in Horsepower (160 to 140). When compared to the more expensive Civic Si, it is out performed in every department.
 
I have not heard anything positive from consumer reports mentioning reliability with the Scion TC. You do with the Honda civic.
  
http://www.consumerreports.org:80/cro/cars/pricing/best-worst-in-car-reliability- -1005/best-worst-models/index.htm
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How the tc stacks up by eldaino
Dec 13, 2006 (8:30 am)
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I myself was interested in the tc, but as subjective as looks are, you have to realize that the tc is part of a brand that is suppossed to offer a lot of bang for your buck, and although i don't think its a bad car, i think that the only think i like better about it than the civic is the backseat room. But that is it. I think the civic looks much better. (little lip spoiler? Does the tc even come with one standard? Lip spoilers arent meant to be flashy.). I also enjoy the enterior quality of materials much more, they feel a lot more upscale. The tc's are even more common too; they seem to appeal to a much wider demographic that has little knowledge of what the competion offers (hence some of the silly unbased posts earlier in this thread), therefore they are much more common; i realize the civic is a civic and you will see plenty of them, but the tc is so overdone i could never drive it. I'd take the civic anyday.
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tc V. ex by littleeyedfish
Dec 20, 2006 (6:45 am)
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The comparison here should be between the tc and civic ex coupe. Yes MSRP is higher on the civic but check the true cost to own. Ex comes with in $400 of the tc over five years. Something to consider.
 
Civic EX coupe 5 speed A/T $40,111
TC 4 speed A/T $39,788
Civic LX coupe 5 speed A/T $35,633
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Integra Manual dvr had shifting pblms n ScionTC test drive:PLS HELP STAT:-) by nifab
Jan 06, 2007 (7:03 pm)
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I am a female, interested in purchasing a 2007 Scion TC Manual Trans. My present car is a 1991 ACURA Integra LS, Manual, 225K, w/the original factory-installed clutch. I am trying to find a model with an Integra’s handling, reliability, and ability to go the distance, considering my price range (18K). I thought a new Scion TC would be a better investment and more worry-free than a used car, considering my traveling distances and safety needs.
 
I went for a test drive, & was surprised by the TC's difficulties I had shifting (ie. getting into gear), partic. downshifting in an emergency stop. The 2nd issue was merging into traffic due to the obstructed left window view (do drivers no longer worry about blind spots?).
 
I think I know how to drive a manual, considering the age of my clutch. I heard there is a big transition in going from a Honda to a Toyota manual. Therefore I do not know if my difficulties driving the Scion were due to this transition/myself, or due to the Scion’s transmission design.
 
From the posts it sounded as though it was easy to burn through clutches during the break-in prd. Should I worry about that? Can someone answer these questions, and provide the correct way to drive a Toyota manual and how to avoid damaging the engine via revving as well as the clutch due to the learning curve?
 
I am certain there is someone out there who can get me on the right foot with the Scion. I would hate to cross her off the list bc I drove her incorrectly.
 
Tx so much for your help!
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Re: Integra Manual dvr had shifting pblms n ScionTC test drive:PLS HELP STA by thinker_
Jan 06, 2007 (9:00 pm)
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Replying to: nifab (Jan 06, 2007 7:03 pm)

The driver-side blind spot isn't a problem -- the driver's window is all you need to get a clear view of the blind spot, assuming I guess that you don't sit too far back (incidentally, the side-view mirrors in any car should be adjusted so that you can just barely see (the edge of) your car). (The driver's side rear window is much too small to be of any use for checking the blind spot, but in the average user's case this rear window would be completely unnecessary).
 
If it was a real emergency, why would you bother downshifting? Why not apply the brakes and then apply the clutch when the engine gets down to 1000 rpm?
 
The tC has been my first manual transmission and I'm generally satisfied with the shifting.

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