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Honda Civic Coupe vs. Scion tC

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Re: Tc is a hackjob [giantkiller] by tlowing
Nov 05, 2005 (2:20 pm)
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Saw a dark cherry Tc today. Pretty sweet looking. Still haven't seen a new Civic out on town. The new Civic Coupe does look a lot like a late model Accord Coupe though. Looks like I'll be waiting till Jan to get my Si - at a minimum. Third on the list at the local dealership.
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Re: Tc is a hackjob [tlowing] by giantkiller
Nov 05, 2005 (4:56 pm)
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Replying to: tlowing (Nov 04, 2005 9:56 pm)

And another thing, a case of, I dont know. You tell me. The specs are available for us and instead of using it we prefer to spout something without thinking if its a fact or
not. Check the specs, and do a little math.
  
Acceleration
Civic coupe EX manual Curb weight/HP = 19.26lbs/HP
tC coupe manual Curb weight/HP= 18.62lbs/HP
  
 Plus the tc has more Torque and at lower RPM than the Civic.
Acceleration goes to tC hands down.
  
Safety: SAB/SCAB is standard for the Civic Coupe while its an option for the tC.
Since its available for the tC, I would say its even as long as the price is
comparable to the Civic.
  
Value: Now this is where we could see how tC with a SAB/SCAB option stack up to
the Civic.
So that I wont be accused of bias I'll take the comparably equipt figures from
hondacars.com, with an apples to apples, orange to orange, dust to dust whatever
you might wanna call it here are the figures:
Honda Civic Coupe EX manual $18810
Scion tC Coupe manual $ 16715
Remember, I didnt price these myself, Its a comparison from Hondacars.com with
same equipment and options and all.
tC wins this hands down.
  
Fuel Economy: I dont have to elaborate on this one. Civic wins hands down.
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Latest CR lambasts the Tc (EOM) by midnightcowboy
Nov 11, 2005 (11:20 am)
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Re: Tc is a hackjob [giantkiller] by toykick
Nov 12, 2005 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: giantkiller (Nov 05, 2005 4:56 pm)

lets see 21k honda civic si vs. 16k scion tc
 
if honda priced the civic at less then 20k then it would be a bargain...
 
the TC has strong aftermarket support though, for 3gs you could get a stage 2 turbo for the TC and run 12s thats still cheaper then the Civic SI
 
i dont think you could do that to a camry... camrys cant take boost...
 
just like the 5sfe camry couldnt take over 200hp blown but the 5sfe Mr2 could put out over 400hp blown... lol never judge to quick...
 
12 second TC: link title save target as...
 
store that sells the kit:
link title
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Opinion is an opinion, feel is different from number. by cooldad24
Nov 17, 2005 (4:36 pm)
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Re: Opinion is an opinion, feel is different from number. [cooldad24] by cooldad24
Nov 17, 2005 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: cooldad24 (Nov 17, 2005 4:36 pm)

Cheer up everyone. We are here to share opinion, not debating and must to win or die, OK? I am considering both and haven't test drive yet but like to point out few things:
 
1.) Number could be misleading. Why? for instance, the head room is measured by the surface of the seat at the lowest position to the ceiling. But the hieght of the seat make difference. Lower the seat, will force the driver to sit straight and higher the seat will make driver want to tilt a little. And the siting posture also differ from one to the other. So sitting in is more important than the spec. I don't mean the number is meaningless but need to add all factors in and preferance too.
 
2.) Style is personal like some mentioned. tC is more traditional inside but provide a list to tailor to your taste. Civic, from the pictures I saw from catalog and internet is more modern-ish with unique console. Honda have tried un-traditional on several models in the past including the S2000, but most of drivers still prefer analog meters for its simplicity and direct information. Exteriorwise, tC is more conservative and Civic is more stylish to my eyes. Both can be altered with accessories for your liking anyway.
 
3.) Safety: Both are good as long as the air-curtain is equipped. Small car tend to have worse collision results and high injury rate. Passive protection gears only can reduce the injury but can't violate the Physics.
 
4.) Cost or value: Item to item is one thing but how they works in another. Both have 4-6 speakers with CD changer and subwoofer if both equipped so. Have anyone compare the quality? How many watt output can't tell the sound quality. 240W is not necessary bettern than 160W. The resale value so far is favor the Civic. So for 5 years ownership the Civic more likely has the edge unless tC prove its reliability and low depreciation 5 years from now. Toyota usally doing good to hold the value but Scion lack the information to foresee. So adding the depreciation, the Civic will add some point on the cost comparison.
 
Which is right for you or me? Set your priority in a list from #1 to say #20. Which win more from you on the list especially the top 5, should be the one to go with. Or you strongly faver on particular one, like giantkiller, it's not a question any more. It's MY OPINION and you don't have to fight back.
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Re: Safety and Style and Performance and Value and So much more [djsmallz] by pinoy_uc
Nov 19, 2005 (1:11 am)
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Replying to: djsmallz (Sep 14, 2005 6:11 am)

im 26yrs, from california I was wondering how come your comparing the honda civic dx model not the ex or si model? because tc is the high end of scion. so compare the same catagory pls. and the SI is high end civic New 2006 197hp stock not Supercharged. Now your comparing Honda SI vs. Tc. for example your like comparing a saturn to a lexus not the same. Im just making sure your saying is true, im not mad at you. i just got a New Honda Si 197 hp stock nov.14th i'am 1st ones to have it got it special order, you'll love it! heres a link..http://automobiles.honda.com/civics/index.aspx
then click on (civic redesign) then top right click on si in between coupe and hybrid and you'll see the stats. Now compare maybe you'll trade your car in
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Re: Opinion is an opinion, feel is different from number. [cooldad24] by giantkiller
Nov 19, 2005 (10:49 pm)
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Replying to: cooldad24 (Nov 17, 2005 5:23 pm)

Which is right for you or me? Set your priority in a list from #1 to say #20. Which win more from you on the list especially the top 5, should be the one to go with. Or you strongly favor a particular one, like cooldad24 who thinks hes fooling somebody of not acting bias but bais in favor of the Civic. Its not my opinion its on the specs. Youre entitled to fight back but give yourself a favor, back it up with verifiable information. Not its "feels like" or "it coud probably the height of the seat".
 
"Toyota usally doing good to hold the value but Scion lack the information to foresee."
 
Forsee what? Its a Toyota its just branded Scion . There you go.

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