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Sedans Honda Civic Honda Civic Coupe vs. Scion tC
186 messages, Last post on Jan 15, 2008 at 9:21 AM
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Replying to: tlowing (Nov 04, 2005 12:34 pm) I doubt they are misleading. If the specs are inaccurate I think someone would have complained by now, and I doubt Toyota would lie. I just checked Edmunds Road test on the TC One of the Cons was Downs: Questionable styling, interior feels cramped for taller drivers, options can get pricey. Giantkiller: The fact that you love the Civic's ugly exterior tells a lot about you You may think the Civic is ugly, but you have to remember that its your own opinion. Styling is subjective.
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Replying to: ctalk (Nov 04, 2005 5:38 pm) Like edmunds.com road test is the the bible of all road test. What about the "feel" isnt that subjective to you? Were talking about 2nd row seat here and here's the "official" figures and no such things as 'it feels like its 36.5in headroom" here. Scion tC Headroom (Front)37.6 Headroom (Row 2)36.6 Hiproom (Front)53.2 Hiproom (Row 2)47.3 Legroom (Front)41.6 Legroom (Row 2)33.6 Shoulder Room (Front)54.3 Shoulder Room (Row 2)50.0 Seating (Maximum)5 Civic Headroom (Front)37.8 Headroom (Row 2)34.7 Hiproom (Front)53.0 Hiproom (Row 2)49.2 Legroom (Front)42.6 Legroom (Row 2)30.3 Shoulder Room (Front)53.9 Shoulder Room (Row 2)52.1 Seating (Maximum)5 By the way the Civic is fugly. You can say that its subjective all you want.
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Replying to: giantkiller (Nov 04, 2005 9:04 pm) And since I'm at it, I also thought the stereo cover was weird.
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Replying to: tlowing (Nov 04, 2005 9:17 pm) And since I'm at it, A also thought the gauge cluster, stereo, trans shifter and almost everything about that ugly car is weird. |
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Replying to: giantkiller (Nov 04, 2005 9:24 pm) |
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Replying to: giantkiller (Nov 04, 2005 9:24 pm) Acceleration: Pretty even, the Scion tC has more hp, and alot more torque but more weight to lug around. Handling: Civic, tC is quite heavier, so this is likely to go to the Civic despite the tC's lower profile rubber. Features: Civic. Once, the strong point of the tC, the Civic now comes with many of the latest gizmos. MP3 player, both have it; audio controls on the steering wheel, ditto; outside temp gauge, ditto. The Civic now ups the ante with a 350-watt sound system [tC has 180-watt] standard 8" subwoofer [optional on tC]. Civic also has lip spoiler standard [optional on tC]. Civic also has XM radio [again, optional on tC]. Finally, the Civic differs in that it offers an optional Navigation system replete with memory card readers [secure digital, compactflash, etc.]. That's where the Civic takes the win. Scion tC has panaramic sunroof, but with it's flimsy shades, and possibly higher repair costs [as well as the squeaks & rattles it induces], not sure a great feature anymore. To be fair though, the tC does have 17" wheels, sleeper seats and a hatchback also. Safety stuff: Also pretty even, if anything probably favors Civic, though the Scion tC does have the curtain airbags as an option [standard for Civic], and also has a knee airbag. Does not have the active head restraint system of the Civic. Value: About even. Seemingly, the tC would take this one, but when you add side curtain/side airbags [standard on Civic], lip spoiler, the tC rings up at $17,750, or about $1k below the EX. Add the XM radio [$449] and bazooka subwoofer [$449] and now were getting real close. Since you can't really negotiate the tC's price, that's where it stands. The Civic's however can be negotiated, though they sell at sticker at the moment. At this point, they both still have features the other does not. Any discussion of value is not complete without mentioning Fuel Economy, see next point. Fuel Economy: Civic. The Scion tC rates at 22city/29highway, not so great, in fact, a Civic Si gets better numbers. 22city/29highway is about what the Cobalt SS gets also [though on premium]. The Civic takes this one easily with 30city/38highway. The Civic's city mileage is higher than the tC's highway mileage! The Civic's combined mileage of 34mpg is about 1/3 higher than the tC's 25.5mpg. |
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Replying to: tlowing (Nov 04, 2005 9:56 pm) |
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