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Sedans Honda Civic Honda Civic Coupe vs. Scion tC
186 messages, Last post on Jan 15, 2008 at 9:21 AM
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I drove my 1982 Toyota Celica for 20 years. I now have an 88 Honda Civic (no air, no power windows or power brakes or power steering, no cup holders, a stick shift, one side view mirror, unpowered) and want to get a new car. Toyotas are good, Hondas are good, as a whole. Dealers are dealers. I test drove an 07 Civic LX and loved the feel of driving it (and all that power stuff and air and cup holders!) and great brakes. I want to test drive the Scion tC next. My issues are: I'd like good gas mileage. I drive mostly around town (3 miles to work in So. Calif). I want to spend minimum money on my small budget. I want dependability and few repair bills. I want to drive up to Napa to see my mother once in a while. I'm 58 and don't need to show off or prove that I'm not afraid to go over speed bumps at 60 mph. I want a long-lasting, comfortable car. The Civic seemed like a big car to me. I couldn't tell where the front and back of the car ended - and changing lanes to the right was tricky. I don't want to spend so much time looking to change lanes safely that I run into the back of the car in front of me. Consumer Reports rated both cars as Recommended (but misprinted the EPA for tC as 22/40 when it should be more like 23/30 according to epinion.com). I read that paint is chipping, the plastic that lines the doors gets scratched up easily, there are problems with clutches, blind spots, uncomfortable seats, etc. I'm not sure what to think. How many test drives does it take to choose? I feel like keeping my 88 Civic until it falls apart at this point. Please advise. Thanks.
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Replying to: zazu (Aug 23, 2007 10:36 pm) Well I've noticed a trend lately, cheaper and cheaper are how the auto manufacturers are going. Your 88 Civic was a tank! I know that generation of civics and they are legendary! Lots of people will jump all over me for this, but I believe that Toyota and Honda have been cutting corners to make more money lately. The tC, yes you have heard correctly, the manual transmission has trouble, notchy gears, clutches dying before 12,000 miles, entire manual transmissions being replaced. The transmission in the celica had a lot of problems too. The tC paint issue? that was for 05, most of them have been fixed now. They even dropped some colors, I suspect because they were poor quality and chipping. The plastic inside the door? It's a surface that can be marred by shoes, but also can be rubbed out easily with rubbing compound if you can believe it! The seats are very comfortable indeed, just takes some time to tweak the seat, once you have it, it's very comfortable. Blind spots? Right rear, but you get used to it, it's because of the large C-pillar. The rattles can be fixed with foam tape, just have to locate and apply. I agree with you keeping your 88 Civic, I am sad to say that Honda continues to go cheaper and cheaper with their quality. Even going as far as to ignore owners, until a class action lawsuit showed up (accord). The 06 Civic had 6 recalls by the way, for things like the manufacturing plant forgetting to GLUE the side and rear windows in on the line! ouch! Then acelerator pedals that are faulty (it's drive by wire now, faulty sensors), air bags that aren't working, and some others. But if you're not satisfied with either car, I'd suggest waiting and seeing what Saturn has coming up. The astra is a new car they're bringing over from Europe. Comes in a 5 door (hatchback) and a 3 door hatchback. And yes comes in a manual transmission model. Not sure of the gas mileage, but if you can hold out, be something interesting to look into. Same horsepower as the lx civic, 140hp. I think the Astra is here in September or October have to ask your Saturn dealer. Thought I'd give you the truth instead of people who are clouded by the fact it's a "Toyota" or it's a "Honda".
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Replying to: mark19 (Aug 25, 2007 11:46 pm) the only problem i had with my 06 was a sunvisor. anyway, back to the issue at hand, the quality in the tc is ok, the civic is better. if gas is the issue, stay away from the tc, the civic will own it all over town. |
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hey..im gonna be buying a new car soon. i know this is topic for civic vs tC however theres no topic for my comparison .I am looking at the 08 tC and the 07 Accord coupe 4 cylinder(the 08 accord coupe is outta my price range) which car do u think is better? both have around the same hp (166 vs 161). the accord is a lil bigger. the tC does come with more features. what would u choose? ne advice/insight would be great. thanks!
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Replying to: pd83 (Oct 06, 2007 5:27 pm) 
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Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 1:11 am) I DIDN'T purchase a Tc because i'm not a chick, and i didn't purchase an overpriced Type-S (even though i tested it) becuase it is now an antique  . There is one reason for it's extinction, it's called the Civic Si. Checkmate  .
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Replying to: jonipomz27 (Oct 08, 2007 4:37 am) brilliant. NO man can deny that the scion is a total chick car. (and a horrendously common one at that.)
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Replying to: eldaino (Oct 10, 2007 8:17 am) |
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Let's just talk about the cars themselves and stop the sweeping generalizations about who drives them.
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Replying to: pat (Oct 11, 2007 1:09 am) (but its totally true! in my neck of the woods its more like 'whoa, a GUY driving a t/c! Wheres the camera!?) 
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