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#153 of 186 fair? by kenlw Jun 04, 2007 (9:33 am)
sure you could break it down further but I seriously doubt the results would be any different.   If you conservatively estimate that only 1 in 4 are non-Si coupes, that is over 7,000 in April 07. That's still almost 2x the Tc Feb 07 sales.   The Honda site already separated the 2,855 Hybrids: http://automobiles.honda.com/info/news/article.asp?ArticleID=200705013973 Replies to this message: shado4 (Jun 05, 2007 8:24 am) eldaino (Jun 05, 2007 9:21 am) shado4 (Jun 05, 2007 10:11 am)
#154 of 186 Re: interesting numbers [shado4] by mark19 Jun 04, 2007 (9:52 am)
Replying to: shado4 (Jun 04, 2007 8:55 am) What's also interesting to think of is this -- I am glad that the tC is more rare. I wouldn't want something that everyone and their grandma has. Why be like everyone else?   Being different IS good, to follow the crowd isn't the best option.
#155 of 186 uhm.... by kenlw Jun 04, 2007 (11:26 am)
One could say the same about the Pinto station wagon.   why are you here? Most places would label you a troll and ignore you. Replies to this message: mark19 (Jun 04, 2007 8:27 pm) eldaino (Jun 05, 2007 3:35 am)
#156 of 186 Re: uhm.... [kenlw] by mark19 Jun 04, 2007 (8:27 pm)
Replying to: kenlw (Jun 04, 2007 11:26 am) so just because YOU don't like what I have to say, that makes me a troll? Too bad that everyone doesn't agree with you. If you don't like the tC, why are YOU posting here? hmm?   deal with it bub.. Replies to this message: eldaino (Jun 05, 2007 3:35 am)
#157 of 186 Re: uhm.... [mark19] by eldaino Jun 05, 2007 (3:35 am)
Replying to: mark19 (Jun 04, 2007 8:27 pm) Too bad that everyone doesn't agree with you. If you don't like the tC, why are YOU posting here? hmm?   ummm...because its a civc vs tc thread?   There is a lot of reasons why the civic does better.   I'll take the grandma civic over the girlfriend tc anyday.
#158 of 186 Re: fair? [kenlw] by shado4 Jun 05, 2007 (8:24 am)
Replying to: kenlw (Jun 04, 2007 9:33 am) sure you could break it down further but I seriously doubt the results would be any different.    If you conservatively estimate that only 1 in 4 are non-Si coupes, that is over 7,000 in April 07. That's still almost 2x the Tc Feb 07 sales.   I'm interested in real sales numbers of the Honda Civic Coupe, not made up ones. "Conservatively estimate" is just another way of saying "I'm pulling these numbers out of thin air."   For the month of May 2007 Toyota sold 6,615 Scion tCs.   Proof   Can anyone truly tell me how many Honda Civic coupes were sold last month? No guessing, please. Replies to this message: eldaino (Jun 05, 2007 9:21 am) shado4 (Jun 05, 2007 10:11 am)
#159 of 186 Re: fair? [shado4] by eldaino Jun 05, 2007 (9:21 am)
Replying to: shado4 (Jun 05, 2007 8:24 am) go to temple of vtec, they usually post up hondas sells numbers for the month.   but i think that the whole sales numbers thing is irrelevant. We are discussing why WE think one car is better/different than the other.   Toyota sells a lot of camrys, but that doesn't mean i would take one over my rabbit. Just an example. Replies to this message: shado4 (Jun 05, 2007 10:11 am)
#160 of 186 Re: fair? [eldaino] by shado4 Jun 05, 2007 (10:11 am)
Replying to: eldaino (Jun 05, 2007 9:21 am) but i think that the whole sales numbers thing is irrelevant.   I only bring it up because of kenlw's post regarding Civic sales of 29,155 and tC sales of 4,399. If you're going to tout sales numbers as a way to make a point, then make sure you are comparing apples to apples (Civic Coupe versus tC), not apples, pears, peaches, watermelon, grapes to apples (all versions of the Civic versus tC).   Just trying to keep the discussion honest.
#161 of 186 hey by kenlw Jun 05, 2007 (12:15 pm)
I posted them as "interesting numbers", not "to make a point".   I posted the best numbers I could find and labelled them as they were. Nothing misleading, if you can find better (and the link certainly is a good one) fine. Good data is good data.   I clearly labeled the ones i posted and if someone can't figure that out, well, I'm wasting my time on them.   Should I also sort them by color? That's important to some folks, too.....   btw, I've owned 3 Camrys (91 v6 DX, 93 i4 LE, 97 v6 LE), a Highlander (02 v6). I know Toyotas and love them. But this time I went with a 2 dr Civic. Why?   Because the mileage on the Tc (my 2nd choice, the Corolla never made it past the "boring" cut) was much, much worse and for numerous personal (styling, ergonomics, etc) issues. Tc has some very good points (>HP, >torque, <$) but overall for ME, the 2 dr Civic won me over. I park next to a nice Tc daily at work. Even he likes my Civic's looks better, but price was an issue (he paid about 4k less), so he went with the Tc. He got great car for his money. I could afford more, and therefore I paid more to get what I wanted. to each his own.
#162 of 186 .. by eldaino Jun 06, 2007 (7:59 am)
good post ken.   i don't think that the tc is a horrible car, i just couldn't own one because all my sisters friends have one.   they both have good points, and then some not so good ones.   i do like the hp torque of the tc, but its safe to say that the civic is a better example of power in the sense of making the most out of engine size. And it does so while getting much better fuel economy.

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