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Honda Civic Coupe vs. Scion tC

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tc vs civic by steelrain440
Jan 24, 2007 (5:55 pm)
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In my opinion the tc has the civic beat by a long shot for looks. I own a 07 TC and my friend recently bought a 07 civic si and installed a turbo. We both agree that he would have been better off with the tc. the civic had no room under the hood for mods. He had to remove the frond bumper support to fit the intercooler. And it costs a lot less to get more horsepower for the tc
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Re: tc vs civic [steelrain440] by thegraduate
Jan 25, 2007 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: steelrain440 (Jan 24, 2007 5:55 pm)

In my opinion the tc has the civic beat by a long shot for looks.
 
I guess that's why we all get one (an opinion that is). To me, the Civic Coupe looks a lot sleeker and sportier than the Scion's more bulbous and blunt shape. It's all subjective though...The Scion isn't bad looking at all, and I was close to getting one, but the interior left me unimpressed (the flimsy sunroof cover for one thing was particularly pathetic).
 
And it costs a lot less to get more horsepower for the tc
 
Well, that's going to happen when you start with an engine that is 33% larger than the standard Civic coupe's. The downside is fuel economy. The Scion's 2.4L gets about 8-10 MPG less than the Civic doesn't it?
 
It's just a matter of the two cars having slightly different priorities, I think. Both are in fact very excellent cars.
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Re: tc vs civic [steelrain440] by eldaino
Jan 26, 2007 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: steelrain440 (Jan 24, 2007 5:55 pm)

well pal thats pretty much the case for any aftermarket turbo! My buddy had to get a custom bumper for his 97 civic because he put a nice big turbo on it. Its common sense you are MODIFIYING the car. You can't expect everything to fit miraculously. The only reason it costs less as far as horsepower goes it only costs less becuase the si is fairly new. A camry engine, even modded, has nothing on a k series.
 
OH and looks are highly subjective. BUt the tc does look way more mainstream.
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Re: tc vs civic [eldaino] by thegraduate
Jan 26, 2007 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jan 26, 2007 11:48 am)

OH and looks are highly subjective. BUt the tc does look way more mainstream.
 
I don't mod cars, but it seems to me the point of it is to NOT have a mainstream looking car.
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Re: tc vs civic [thegraduate] by eldaino
Jan 31, 2007 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 26, 2007 12:10 pm)

sometimes. but not always. Some of the most revered tuners are the ones whose cars look completley stock, with very small visual enhancements like a little bit of chassis lowering and not to flashy but good looking rims. All the work goes into the engine and drivetrain. Hence the 'tuning' aspect of it. Anyone can paint a car a silly color or put a awful muffler on it. (don't get me started on neon lights.)
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Which one is cheaper? by slerp
Apr 27, 2007 (12:33 pm)
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I am looking into purchasing one of these. I love both of them but I am constricted by a $15,000 max budget. Would I be able to get either a civic LX coupe or scion tc (looking for auto) for that price? If not which one would I be able to get for less? Thanks
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Re: Which one is cheaper? [slerp] by thegraduate
Apr 27, 2007 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: slerp (Apr 27, 2007 12:33 pm)

Scion dealers do not negotiate. Their prices are firm, something that more than one Toyota/Scion dealer told me. I don't think you'll be getting either car for under $15,000 brand new. You may find a one-year old used one for that, although I wouldn't get your hopes too high. Both of these are closer to $17k-$18k. A Civic DX is under $15,000, but is not very well equipped.
 
Are these the only two cars you are considering? For under $15k, you are more in line with subcompacts such as the Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, and Nissan Versa if you are after a Japanese car. If you can stand a 4-door, the Hyundai Elantra offers a LOT of bang for the buck, with a midsize interior and a price around $15,000 nicely (if not ornately) equipped.
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Re: Which one is cheaper? [thegraduate] by kenlw
Apr 27, 2007 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 27, 2007 4:28 pm)

We looked and drove both (07) Tc and Civic EX. The Tc is more torquey, has more power, and it is very noticeable (both auto).
 
Mileage isn't even close tho, and that was big on our list. To be fair, so far the Civic isn't getting anywhere near rating, but I would expect the Tc to be off proportionally as well. But at only 30 highway, heck, my 200k mile v6 Camry did almost that good!
 
The Tc felt front heavy and not very nimble. The styling is a bit lackluster (all IMHO) and the waisteline (the lower edge of the side windows) is much too high visually. Looks are very important to me.
 
The driver's foot areas seemed cramped on the Tc, and I'm only 5-7. The driver's area just felt a bit crowded and it seemed like i was sitting in a bathtub. A very deep bathtub, and the bottom edge of the window seemed very high when hanging the arm out, uncomfortable even. Of course, I could have moved the seat up (assuming it does as on the CIvic), but then the headroom whould have been even worse. Visibility was a lot worse in the rear quarters, tho part of that could be just me and my preference for sitting on the ground.....
 
The Tc is definitely a good value, and can be had for almost 5k less. And the power differences are significant, and coming from that v6 Camry that was appealing. I've had 3 Camrys and a Highlander. I've never owned a Honda until now. I don't regret it one bit, altho it cost consideably more than a Tc. I just feel the Civic is a lot more car.
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Re: Which one is cheaper? [kenlw] by eldaino
Apr 30, 2007 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: kenlw (Apr 27, 2007 6:12 pm)

dont feel bad ken, you made the right choice!
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Re: Tc is a hackjob [ill_ivtec] by toshi1
May 01, 2007 (8:52 pm)
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Replying to: ill_ivtec (Dec 01, 2005 11:30 am)

I know that turbo set up for the si is nice but i have to dis agree. At the time my tc just had a borla exhaust on it and i ate a 05 si at a 1/4 mile track a few times and it had I/H/E. Everyone know that was hondas step child but they do handle alot better than a tc. In my opinion get the new si for racing because with cams full exhaust intake and A/F management those have run low 14s with 220hp. Still you come out more expensive than a turbo tc but you will have a more reliable caily criver. On the other hand for a daily driver i couldnt deal with the tourqueless monster the si was. I test drove one and i got tired of downshifting to pass cars on the high way and when vtec kicks in i love the destinctive sound but its too loud compared to the predesesors. Im getting the best of both worlds though. My tc has a little go but nothing to brag about at all but then im building a 2000 gsr right now which stock beats the tc by about a car and some change. Tc's not a race car but if you put in the wrench time it can be easy. Just up to you if you want to boost your DD and worry about the countless problems you could run into if you're not FI inclined. Thats my $.02

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