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Sedans Honda Civic Honda Civic Coupe vs. Scion tC
186 messages, Last post on Jan 15, 2008 at 9:21 AM
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I drove the automatic Tc looking for a coupe for good MPG and fun.I did not like the way the throttle responded after exiting a turn and the sales guy said because of emission controls you have to drive it gently.Wrong answer!Across the street was the Honda dealer so I dropped into to see if they had any Civics and they did.I drove it and was blown away with the package.Sure it needs more torque but you have a choice of leaving it in D and get 30 mpg or drop down to D3 and operate where the torque is.The only problem is I expected my wife to drive it but she does not like it because of her long legs and when parking in the parking structure at work she can not open the door wide enough. |
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Replying to: nifab (Jan 06, 2007 7:03 pm) I have to say, I love my tC. For the price I paid (right under $19K) - I got a brand new car with all the options I wanted. This is my first manual, so while I can't compare to other manuals, I can offer my insight from someone who basically learned on that car. I can't say I've had a problem with the manual - besides I've been killing it a lot more since the colder weather. . . But I was told that the clutch point changes, and I'm probably not used to it. Overall: tC is a lot of fun to drive. I'm guessing once you get used to the clutch it'll be fine. It isn't extremely smooth, but I guess I never realized that until you mentioned it. Maybe if it was too smooth, it wouldn't be fun to drive. . .? (Its not rough, though!) Here is what I like: Roomy back seat. For a 2-door, I've had guys who are 6' tall sit in my back seat with plenty of leg room. Its got pretty good acceleration and torque, I love peeling out when I have friends in the car! I have fit a 6' step ladder in the car w/o any problems with the seats folded back and down. Here are my complaints: This is my first 2 door car and I don't like how big the doors are when I'm parked next to another car. Although there is plenty leg room, the head room in the back is limited. (Although the back seats recline, which help this). My friend who is about 6'4" has to sit in the front seat, and its somewhat tight for him. (But he has never complained) I guess I can't compare this manual to others, but I can compare it to itself and I have been very satisfied overall with the car and the transmission.
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Replying to: lkc_tc (Jan 10, 2007 7:14 am) Plus nifab wasn't complaining about the clutch, she was complaining that the shift points were not engaging correctly. And that "notchiness" is because the synchronizers are not engaging. You are correct in that you have nothing to compare it to. You should drive another manual transmission car, and you'll see the difference. nifab was able to compare it to a transmission that was working properly (her own integra). So you also might have gotten lucky and got a rare "good" one, like the one out of 4 or 5 I test drove. But with that kind of success rate, nifab is correct in looking elsewhere. Im glad you're lucky and not having the issues others are having. Consider yourself blessed! |
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There is no comparison of the two cars. my civic i owned could not get out of it's own way, had horrible handling... to put it lightly the only thing it had going for it was the gas mileage. The tc has a more comfortable seating arrangement, better pick up, handling, breaking( when i slammed on the breaks in my civic it tended to have a light tale and would drift out a lot easier)and most of all a better appearance cosmetic wise. The one and only problem i have had with my tc is my radio would change stations on it's own out of no where, which was a malfunctioning radio they had in the 05 i must have gotten stuck with a left over....
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Replying to: nauticascion (Jan 15, 2007 7:07 am) |
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Replying to: nauticascion (Jan 15, 2007 7:07 am) |
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My civic was a 2000
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Replying to: nauticascion (Jan 16, 2007 7:08 am) Don't you think the Civic may have changed a LOT (it has, trust me) since that 1.6L model? I would certainly hope Toyota could match and defeat an 11 year-old design with something that is currently on the market. Sounds like they obviously have. |
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Yes i am because they never change my girl has a 06 and it drives worse than my 2000 did.
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Replying to: nauticascion (Jan 16, 2007 8:00 am) Ah, you never mentioned that. I disagree that they never change. I drove my grandparents in their 1997 Civic on Christmas Day, and can tell you it is MUCH different from my dad's 2007 Civic. Both are sedans, with Automatics. Care to elaborate about your evaluation a little? "Drives worse" is pretty useless to me in figuring out what you don't like about the car. Handling? Ride? Steering? Acceleration? Just curious here, not trying to poke and prod... It might help other shoppers interested in these two. The Civic with a manual runs 0-60 in the mid-high 7s I believe. The last Scion tC manual I saw was similar, so acceleration has DEFINITELY improved from the 106 hp Civics like your old one. |
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