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#73 of 90 Re: Honda Insight Wet Seat Belts [margeauxl1]
May 23, 2011 (6:49 am)
check out insight central, lots of people with this problem including me. Mine was caused when i had my windshield replaced by a non-honda place and when they took of the molding/trim above the door they broke of some of the plastic clips which let the water channel down the door pannel where the seat belt assembly is. Also i had the roof repainted and when they removed the liner they found a few other leak areas. ill cut and paste some of the other comments from insight central below. good luck
have had the same wet seat belt problem. yesterday my honda dealer found the problem in my 2000 model insight. they said it was leaking from the roof molding clip. they had to remove some interior trim and seal it. i am happy to say it worked. last night it came a gully washer and the seat belt was dry this morning. hope this helps
The dealership did a water leak test and eventually found the culprit. The top "A" pillar trim clip will allow water to enter the body and drain into the "B" pillar and soak the seat belt retractor mechanism.
The clip is white and is at the very top of the roof and is the last one before the "A" pillar trim ends at the top before the rear window. My dealership used windshield adhesive/sealer to seal this clip into place. All of the white plastic clips under the "A" pillar trim piece have a thin rubber washer to seal out water, but the ones I got to see were squashed flat and didn't look like they would block out the water.
So far no more wet seat belt. If and when the other side ever gets wet I know exactly what to ask to be done. Overall the experience was a PITA, but i'm glad the leak is fixed.
Don't let the dealership butcher your "A" pillar. The service technician who worked on my trim piece buggered up the paint on my fender and under the trim piece while taking it off. They gave me back my car while they waited for parts and I spotted all of the paint damage. Luckly my dealership is pretty cool and they fixed it at NO charge when I complained. Ask your service advisor to make sure that they read the service manual befor removing this trim piece and they are trained on servicing the Insight.
I have had this problem on my 2000 model year insight. The problem originally ocurred back in February of 2003 but took a few tries to diagnose. The dealer tried everything and finally had to call Honda tech support to determine that the leak was happening under the A pillar retaining clips. They also had to replace the seatbelt as it smelled very bad.
After the first hard rain of this season the problem seems to be back. My carpet and under padding is totally thrashed this time and the entire car stinks of mold. When I discovered the problem the car had been at the airport for four days in the rain. Since the car is still in warranty I am insisting that the Honda dealer take care of not only the leak but the bad smell. They have agreed to replace the carpet padding and steam clean the carpet. I am taking the car in for service on November 11th. Hopefully they can fix the problem this time as having a stinky car is getty really old
I just want to add my 2 cents worth... the main clips that cause the leaking are the very first ones... right up above each passenger door. Right where the panels connect. If you put silicone eg.. around these clips it will stop the leaking into the seatbelt area... hope that helps
I've read all the posts here and here's my 2 cents worth...
I had the same issue wet seatbelt etc.. So I had my Honda dealer show me the famous A pillar plastic seal .. and I guess the easy fix for me was they opened up the side area where the seal is put some silicon around it and vioal problem fixed... hth
You sure you got the correct clips? The a pillar clips is the very first one you'll see when you peel back the panel. The other clips are more forward than those and if you notice they are alos on a decline so the water will move further down the car... those are the source problem clips.. You may need to lift them a bit and make sure silicone is completely sealing them. Should fix your issue...
My 2005 Insight spent 4 days at the Honda dealer to repair the wet seat belt problem. They actually found three leaks, first one at the trim clips that have been mentioned here, the second one at the left side roof seal and the last one at the rear hatchback. All were covered under the warranty. As good luck would have it, we had a torrential rain the day after picking the car up and she remained dry. The Honda dealer had never experienced a wet seat belt problem before, but added the rear hatchback leak has been a problem source. I had not noticed any water in the back, but glad they did as I only have 4 months left on warranty
have a 2000 manual 5 spd and I too am/was having the problem with the driver side seat belt getting wet and smelling after a heavy rain storm. I decided to remove the plastic grey plastic interior cover. I sat inside while I had someone run water hose on top of the car. I noticed a small water drip coming right above the seat belt retractor. I then noticed what the honda insight service manual calls a protector that is a clear plastic behind the seat belt retractor. I then noticed that the plastic protector double sided tape/rubber seal was broken lose. The rubber seal was not totally sealed around the metal which i think the water might be leaking into. This was about a year ago. I just removed the grey plastic interior cover, to help air out the seat belt retractor, and have not noticed much problems yet. But I still need to looking into the problem and fix it. I will use some of the post as a guide for this problem that I have noticed that the problem might be coming from the clip
#74 of 90 Re: Honda Insight Wet Seat Belts [margeauxl1]
Jun 16, 2011 (7:33 pm)
I have the same problem. I have a 2010 insight.
When I call he dealer that I purchased it from, I get nothing but the round around. They claim no one else has this problem and after having my car all DAY long they said there was no problem.(said they ran under a heavy car wash)
I asked to speak with the Dublin Honda Owner, Ken Harvey. Ironically, the shuttle driver said he is there every day, but when I asked to speak with him, he is not available.I finally spoke with a Service repair supervisor and he agreed to get me a rental car and give him and his staff the opportunity to check it out tomorrow again. We'll see if they even move the car from its present location.
The Patt answer is "its under warranty, bring it back..." they don't realize people have to work to make the Honda payments.
I am furious with this Honda Dealership. My advise: Don't buy Honda
#75 of 90 Low MPG on 2010 Honda Insight
Sep 10, 2011 (11:00 am)
Within the last 4 months my millage has dropped from 47mpg to 35. Granted I do live in Houston Texas and the weather has been extremly warm. Would using the air conditioner cause the millage to drop. What else would cause it to drop a good 12mpg? How can I increase the millage to 47-50 mpg. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Oct 11, 2011 (7:09 am)
Bought my 2011 Insight back in March and everything going great. The one thing I am a little worried about is the first oil change. Have almost 4,500 miles and the display is telling me I still have 50% life. I am far from a 3,000, 3 month guy but I am looking at well over 8,000 miles before my first change. Is this normal? Mostly city driving but I am super easy on it and have been getting about 45 per since I got it.
#77 of 90 Re: First Oil Change [johnobvious]
Oct 13, 2011 (1:12 pm)
Follow the oil minder that's in your car...it's there for a reason. I felt the same way when I got my Civic back in '06 but I waited till the minder got to 15% to swap out the oil & filter. Was told the break in oil has a special formula and to wait till it gets to 15% to change it...so I did. Have to believe the engineers who built the car knew what they were doing. And 45 ain't to bad!
#78 of 90 Re: Low MPG on 2010 Honda Insight [lsmookler]
Oct 25, 2011 (8:57 am)
Yes Lewis, A/C will drop your mileage. The hotter the temps, the harder the A/C has to work, and the more it will rob your MPGs. It also does something else too. It sometimes causes your engine not to shut off when stopped at a traffic light, which it usually does to save gas. This means you will be often idling, and therefore further robbing your gas mileage. This is because the engine needs to run in order to run the A/C. So the engine keeps running to keep you comfortable. ...Unless you are in the ECO mode.
In the ECO mode, the engine is MORE likely to shut off when stopped at a light in order to save gas (although not always). But at the disadvantage of making you warm during that time. You will cool down again when you get moving again. But keep in mind that even in the ECO mode there are often times when the engine only shuts down for 14 seconds before restarting. Other times it wll still will not shut down at all. (It has to do with the humidity -- the car tries to make sure that you don't fog up your windows while sitting at a light.)
So yes, 12mpgs makes sense. I'm assuming nothing else about your driving conditions/style has changed besides temperature (like traffic, tire pressure, etc).
For tips on how to increase your overall mileage, check out the posts on the Insight board under the topic of Real World MPGs. I and others have some helpful posts. Some posts have talked about how to use your A/C without having as much of an impact on your mileage.
#79 of 90 Buying extra warranty at purchasing?
Nov 30, 2011 (2:42 am)
I recently purchased a new 2012 Insight base model and the dealer pushed me to buy an extra warranty for 7 or 8 years / 80,000 miles for $967.00.
I did not, since most of the time, if it's offered , you don't need it. I read in the warranty booklet, that in Rhode Island the IMA system is covered for 10 years/80,000 miles. Has anyone on this forum bought the extra warranty? Should I have?
I posting my question here because no one on the forum"Buying experience" has answered the same question.
Thanks in advance
#80 of 90 No extra warranty needed
Nov 30, 2011 (4:33 am)
No. I didn't buy it either. It's a Honda. Right there is my assurance that it's a reliable car.
#81 of 90 New Insight 2012
Dec 01, 2011 (3:01 am)
Thanks for the positive answer "spunjorno, "!
After 358 miles, I did my first gas fill up and the display showed 49.9 mpg!
Love the car so far.
Still puzzled why at a red light, the car goes is "motor shut off", but not in a parking lot in the gear at "parking position"?
Thanks for the reply.
#82 of 90 Re: New Insight 2012 [dnatech]
Dec 14, 2011 (9:38 am)
That threw me at first too. But then it occurred to me that to go to Park you have to pass through Reverse. The car has to come out of "autostop" in order go into the reverse gear.
And 'Park' is where you start the car. So it can't be in "autostop" in the gear where you need to be able to start...