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#85 of 707 Whats the best truck for me? by amocan Feb 20, 2006 (5:07 pm)
Please Help, I need to ask all you truck owners who are walking encyclopedias which is the best truck for me? I have looked at, driven and are considering one of these five "loaded" 4x4 extended cab trucks. 1500 Sierra 5.3, 1500 Silverado 5.3, 1500 Ram 5.7, Titan 5.6 or Ford F150 5.4. I'm 53 years old this is my first new truck I've always bought used. My driving habits are mostly around town, some highway and occasionally in the woods hunting. I would like something comfortable and quite cruising down the highway but also something with maneuverability when turning around on a woods road or parking lot. Options, gas mileage and dependability are also important considerations. What would you buy and why? Replies to this message: rosey7 (Feb 21, 2006 7:20 pm) desert03ram (Feb 23, 2006 11:34 pm) p100 (Feb 24, 2006 9:02 am) medina (Feb 24, 2006 1:14 pm)
#86 of 707 Re: does anyone actually have any idea on when the new trucks will come out by [donthegreek] by 05duramax Feb 21, 2006 (2:15 pm)
Replying to: donthegreek (Feb 16, 2006 3:12 pm) I've read December, 2006, but November could just as easily be the case. Anyone know if the 2500 HD Silverados are scheduled for release at the same time as the 1500s? Thanks.
#87 of 707 Re: Whats the best truck for me? [amocan] by rosey7 Feb 21, 2006 (7:20 pm)
Replying to: amocan (Feb 20, 2006 5:07 pm) I have a 2002 Silverado 5.3 Quad Cab short bed "Z71" and love this truck. It has plenty of power, good gas mileage for a V8 and drives like a dream. Also have a 2002 Silverado standard duty longbed V6. Good transportation, economical, not quite as plush as the Quad cab V8. I would definately suggest that you look at Chevy or it's cousin... GMC trucks...you won't be sorry.
#88 of 707 Re: Home run! [medina] by p100 Feb 23, 2006 (6:41 am)
Replying to: medina (Feb 14, 2006 2:05 pm) Just wait until complaints start rolling in! I would never buy a first year redesigned model from any manufacturer, let alone GM.
#89 of 707 Anybody hear... by mrjjgittes Feb 23, 2006 (9:40 am)
that GM is releasing a new truck this year? I thought I had heard something about this, but the amount of info available is lower than GM's bond rating.
#90 of 707 New truck appearance by p100 Feb 23, 2006 (8:55 pm)
If the new Silverado looks just like the 2007 Tahoe, I am not impressed. I do not care for 18 inch tall headlights and its front end appearance in general.   Is GM going to use the DOD (displacement on demand) as standard equipment in all of their trucks? They should consider making the system optional or at least provide a system disable button. Let the driver decide whether they want to use this feature or not. Replies to this message: z71sub (Mar 14, 2006 6:13 am)
#91 of 707 Re: Whats the best truck for me? [amocan] by desert03ram Feb 23, 2006 (11:34 pm)
Replying to: amocan (Feb 20, 2006 5:07 pm) The best truck for you Hmm. I would only consider trucks with a 5spd trans. That leaves you with the Ram or Titan. I like the Dodge Ram best. I have a 2003 2wd with the 4.7L and it feels like a sports car compared to my last F-150 due to the 5spd trans, rack & pinion steering and fully boxed frame. The Ram has the best of all worlds in many respects. The 5spd auto trans keeps the 4.7L or hemi engine always in the meat of its power band. Going up the mtns just set the cruise and forget it. WIth the old 4spds the cruise always shuts off then must mash gas pedal through floor to downshift then revs are too high for a little while in 2nd, then it shifts back to third and now you lost all your momentum, rpms are now too low and must remash gas pedal through floor again and restart this PIA sequence. The Dodge is the only Quad cab with a 6 ft bed and with the rack and pinion steering it drives like a sports car. Fun to drive and easy to park. Steering is nice and responsive unlike the chevy where you dont feel the road at all and it feels like the steering is just floating, no road feel communicating back in chevy. The seperate area for Ac Condenser coil under hood gives it h the best working ac compared to others, Ford is a close 2nd in the ac dept. I take an ac temp guage to test ac in these vehicles. FYI the hondas, pilot ridgeline had worst performing acs in the AZ heat. Ford and dodge were a virtual tie. I had a 2003 honda crv and the ac compressor grenaded within 6 months of new and never performed that well again. If I were purchasing a 4wd I would get the hemi. The 2006 Ram has much improved ride & suspension in 4wds and much quieter ride then previous rams. To review the Ram has 5spd trans, great eng in hemi, rack & pinion steering, 6 ft bed, fully boxed frame, very good ride / suspension, most interior room and the most useful in storage under rear seat and flat load floor, center console and big door pockets. Best view out windows and seating postion. Also with 2006 the 4wd is completely disconnected when not engaged. and the MDS which saves a few cents on gas. One small drawback to ram, why no locking tailgate? I would not get 20inch wheels due to a louder rougher ride and expensive to replace but they sure do look good. Now the Titan. The 5spd trans and 5.6L engine are awesome in Titan but the exhaust noise / sound is a bit loud for me and would get old on a long trip. The 5.5ft bed seems a bit small. I just like to have at least a 6ft bed. The rear seat in titan is very roomy and comfortable, more so than ram quad cab, The flat load floor is roomy and there is room to store stuff behind seats. If you get SE with buckets the center console is big enough for a lap top and letter size folders, nice. I dont like the panty hose material on seats or how seats are positioned, kinda of low and vision out windows is not as good as in ram. It seems that ford, dodge and nissan are using the same seat mfg in 06 with the panty hose material on seats. I would either cover em with leather or something else. That problem is less with a power seat. I think a lot of those little dials and the metal paint finish wont hold up long in interior. the 18 inch wheels look good but how much will replacement tires be and limited selection im sure. Also not sure if brake problems in Titan have been cured. Too small brakes and rotors with the big 18 inch. wheels led to many replacements of brakes and rotors. The Ford I think overall is the best built truck just in front of Dodge but doesnt have all the features and power that I like/require. It has only a 4spd trans and it weighs so much that even with the 5.4L engine it barely gets out of its own way. In Titan or Ram you go places when you step on the gas pedal. In the F-150 its like your in slow motion. Another good test is at hwy speed of say 60-65 mash the gas pedal to test passing power. My dodge is a blast to drive on long trips and passes with aurthoriy when asked. There is hardly any storage in the ford, nothing in rear seat area of crew cab and it doesnt have the hip or shoulder room of Dodge. The bed is so deep and tailgate so high it is very hard to see what is behind you especially when backing up. Again only a 5.5 ft bed. The tail gate assist and locking tailgate is nice though. The Ac is top notch right with Ram. Living in AZ that is very important. The FOrd sits very high as well. The ride is nice and quiet. The GM trucks have the most carlike ride and are the lowest to ground if you dont like tall trucks. I plan to buy a power step if I purchase a 4wd. YOu could get away with an extra cab and have plenty of room but the clam shell doors become a real pain since you always have to open front door first before opening rear door. Again the GM trucks do not have the storage or interior room of Ram or Titan. They do have the most car like ride and get the best mileage. The 2007 GM trucks I would consider and should be a vastly improved but will probably still have a 4spd trans and they are not out yet. Other considerations are The current generation ram has been out since 2002 and dodge continues to make great improvements to this model. They are not dealing with nay design flaws like the brakes in titan or other 1st year model vehicles typically have. The Titan is just one year out and they proably have a few items to work out. The Ford was probably the best first year model ever produced but why the arcahic 4spd trans and weak engine choices. The 2007 GM trucks should catch up to competitors, we shall see. That is my three cents. Hope this helps. I would recommend driving one truck to the competitors dealership and drive the other immediately to see and feel the difference before you forget. Go straight to fleet dept and test drive by yourself so you can listen and focus on vehicle instead of some sales guy yaking the whole time. Most know less about the vehicle than you do. I think for the money you cant beat the Dodge. Now if you could buy the Ford or titan and save 4-6 thousand then buy one of them. I personally cant stomach over $20K for a vehicle. I bought my 03 ram 1500 Quad cab in 04 with 30K from a private party for $16K. WIth the money I save vs buying new I purchased a two used motorcycles, an 03 sv 1000 suzuki and a yamaha 01 YZF426 dirt bike. Im real tempted to purchase an 06 Ram 1500 SLT Quad cab 4wd for $28K but hard to fathom that an 06 is worth $12K-$15K more than my current rig. I have no need for 4wd and I will install a daystar 2-inch coil spring spacer in front to level out truck. With good tires and limited slip rear end can go everywhere I need to. Plan to purchase Firestone Destination ATs. Read reviews on Tirerack. The OEm goodyear GSAs only lasted 28K miles.As a hobby I test drive all the new trucks, 14 dealerships within two miles of where I live in tempe az. so if I really am impressed, I just wait till one pops up in private market. The toyota tundra has old steering, frame a Replies to this message: p100 (Feb 24, 2006 9:02 am) medina (Feb 24, 2006 1:14 pm)
#92 of 707 Re: Whats the best truck for me? [desert03ram] by p100 Feb 24, 2006 (9:02 am)
Replying to: desert03ram (Feb 23, 2006 11:34 pm) Well, let's see. My '06 crew cab Z71 has a 5'8" bed which is a good compromise considering the rear seat space and leg room. Dodge Quad cab does not even come close in terms of rear passenger space that my Silverado has. I should know, I checked out both of these before making my purchase decision.   My purchase decision was influenced greatly by my GM card rebate of $ 3600 plus all other incentives, which made this LT1 crew cab Z71 a great deal at $ 24,750 plus tax. There was no way I could buy a similar Dodge, Ford, or Nissan Titan new 4WD truck at that price. Yes, my truck uses an old 4 speed auto transmission, which can be a disadvantage, but I compensated somewhat by going with the 3.73 axle gear ratio, which helps the truck to stay in overdrive gear longer and at lower speeds. I live in Florida, so that hills are not an issue. I get plenty good acceleration out of this 295 HP 5.3 V8, and the truck tows my 5000 lb boat/trailer with ease.   The seat cloth is not the cheap "pantyhose" type material, but decent fabric. The riding height is just about right, and the truck does not have the deep bed like F150 with very high sides, which would be annoying when unloading small things from the bed over the side.   The truck has a nice quiet ride, and gets acceptable fuel economy of about 15 MPG combined, about 16-17 MPG highway with regular 87 octane gas. Dodge 4WD trucks with the 5.7 HEMI do not even come close. I spoke with a 65 year old gentleman who wanted to sell his 2004 4WD Ram 1500 with the 5.7 HEMI because he could not get more than 11 MPG out of this truck no matter what! This with an older guy driving, who probably never drives fast. I can only imagine what would a young kid get out of this truck.   And TITAN truck fuel economy is not as good as that of GM trucks either. 4WD Titan trucks barely get 14 MPG.   So in summary, Chevy trucks have their weak points, but also some desirable features. For me, the interior space of the crew cab, mileage, and price were the largest motivating factors. Replies to this message: medina (Feb 24, 2006 1:14 pm)
#93 of 707 Re: Whats the best truck for me? [p100] by medina Feb 24, 2006 (1:14 pm)
Replying to: p100 (Feb 24, 2006 9:02 am) Great truck at great price, go with the Silverado! The new Vortec Max will give you the most power! 3:73 are the ticket! My '99 came with 4:10's and i couldnt be happier. Motor Trend did a comparo in 2000 with all the players back then and the Chev came out on top. As for the '07's first year model recalls are the exception rather than the rule now a days. No current manufacture can afford to have that happen to them. The competition has made all of the players better. The weekly Automotive News gives all the updates on recalls and the last ones of note were the Toyota Hybrid with stalling out and Ford dealing with the buyouts of the latest Powerstroke motors. As a whole, the automotive industry is getting better!
#94 of 707 2007 Front End by z71sub Mar 14, 2006 (6:13 am)
Replying to: p100 (Feb 23, 2006 8:55 pm) From the Photos I've seen of the 07 Tahoe, Suburban, and Avalanche, I almost expect the SIlverado to have the same front end. I hope I'm wrong. I think GM is in worse shape than they're letting on, if they are using the same front end across the truck/SUV line. I wouldn't be surprised to see the same front on the 07 Trailblazer and a future Colorado.   Please, Chevy, do something special for the Silverado.

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