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2007 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra - First Impressions

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Re: Idiotic Backup Sensor [skytop1] by 12ozcurls
Sep 03, 2007 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: skytop1 (Sep 02, 2007 5:40 pm)

So you had one bad experience at a dealership and now all dealerships are bad? Obviously it should have been better but to say that this is what happens at all several thousand GMC dealerships across the continental United States is absurd. They are independently owned and operated and every manufacture has problems with their dealerships...
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GM unable to make Denali repairs [12ozcurls] by skytop1
Sep 03, 2007 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: 12ozcurls (Sep 03, 2007 1:51 pm)

Listen 12ozcurls:
If your feelings are hurt because I said something about GM that just doesn't make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, I regret it. It is not my intention to hurt any one's feelings but rather to disseminate on these boards the frustrating madening treatment I am receiving at the hands of GM service.
 
Oh yes, to correct you....I did not have a bad experience at one GM dealership. I was directed by GM to go to two dealerships and I went to an additional two for a total of FOUR dealerships. My experience was virtually the same at all FOUR dealers. As far as my new Denali and its computer systems are concerned, the service people are simply not trained, not equipped, not apprised of how the systems operate. Yes, I have a truck that is plagued with many, many defects. It has indeed proved itself to be the proverbial lemon. However, I made serious and many, many repeated earnest attempts to get the vehicle serviced and repaired. The results were uniformly unproductive.
 
I was able to ask two of the techs that worked on my truck what the problem was with the 6 speed. Both told me they had no specific training on the computerized drive by wire adaptive learning, torque control transmission. They did not have a clue how it worked. The GM engineering department stated straight out that they acknowledge the probems but unfortunately have no repairs or fixes since the technology is too new for them and their people are unfamiliar with the operation of the computer operated transmission and computer operated A/C environmental systems. The simple fact is that GM is selling vehicles and they don't know how to repair them. The GM engineering department said, and I quote "we won't have a repair for at least 6 months and possibly longer."
 
So please, don't even think that I had a problem with just one little 'ol GM dealer. I went to FOUR dealers. It is the entire GM vertically integrated system that is uniquely unprepared and unqualified to repair the Denali systems from the top engineers in Detroit on down to the dealer "service" techs. Maybe the low tech Chevys and standard Sierra can still be fixed by GM but that is clearly not the case with the '07-'08 Denalis. Those are the facts so please learn to live with it.
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Re: GM unable to make Denali repairs [skytop1] by schlog
Sep 03, 2007 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: skytop1 (Sep 03, 2007 4:24 pm)

I'm sure the pompous, offensive, holier than thou attitude has nothing to do with the way your treated, or the amount of help your receiving. Probably why you've supposedly had to visit so many dealerships to get a little attention. Attitude and how you treat people has alot to do with how much they want to help you in return. From all that you've written in this forum, all that comes across is a bitter little person who is getting his say on how the man (GM) has put the screws to him and he's going to hold the members of this forum hostage until he is heard. Please take this most gracious advice and move on, take the lemon law and let us here be without the skytop1 drone. Hear it once, maybe twice ...OK. 7-8 times, someone has a problem a bit deep and needs some professional help.
 
So... anyone out there have an honest and NEW first Impression??
 
Schlog
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Re: GM unable to make Denali repairs [schlog] by skytop1
Sep 03, 2007 (8:41 pm)
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Replying to: schlog (Sep 03, 2007 6:34 pm)

Glad you ventilated your feelings. Hope you feel better.
Too bad your entirely off base and still don't get it.
You are without a clue, my friend.
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Come on, guys... by kcram HOST
Sep 04, 2007 (4:55 pm)
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Sky and schlog, agree to disagree and move on, please.
 
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Move on... by schlog
Sep 05, 2007 (4:05 pm)
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Move on is what I've tried to infer here. Tired of the same old grind every other post. It would be best for me to tune out and let the newbies to the forum give their views. Over and out.
 
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Re: GM unable to make Denali repairs [skytop1] by 12ozcurls
Sep 06, 2007 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: skytop1 (Sep 03, 2007 4:24 pm)

Yes I am truly hurt and after this exchange, i fear I will not be able to live...come on man you got a lemon, deal with it. It happens. Even the new Tundra is having loads of problems. Not because its badly engineered, but because it's NEW! There are always kinks to work out. Even the Camary had problems out of the gate..I'm sorry you had less than fuzzy experiences with your dealers, maybe its something in the water where you live..i don't know..but i can tell you about just as many bad experiences with dealers of other manufacturers including Ford, Toyota, and BMW.
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Re: GM unable to make Denali repairs [12ozcurls] by 1offroader
Sep 06, 2007 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: 12ozcurls (Sep 06, 2007 4:34 pm)

Amen to that. I had some HORRIBLE experiences with my local Toyota dealer re: repairs, and repairing the repairs, and repairing the repaired repairs. (I will spare everyone the boring details). It wouldn't stop me from buying another Toy, but I would think twice.
 
For the record, I had a bad experience with a 1983 Z28 and didn't go back to GM until the new Silverado. So, at least I'm consistent in my inconsistency.
 
Also keep in mind, this isn't Toyota's first rodeo. They started with the T100 (flop), then went to the older style Tundra (didn't set the truck world on fire, but better than T100), before arriving at the new one. It would be surprising if it wasn't a decent truck (which it is).
 
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Contemplating on buying my first GM. by gaspasser2
Sep 11, 2007 (2:37 am)
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I've been lurking for a bit and first of all I want everyone to know I respect and appreciate everyones input.
 
I think I'm going to hold for a while after reading this forum. I can't believe that most of you know your respective dealers so much, both the good and the bad ones. Now, is knowing your dealer so well and dealing with it many times after the purchase a good thing or a bad thing? I think its the later. Those that are vehemently defending their dealer tells me that you have a bad truck as well. How else would you explain that? Car dealership is like the walking beer vendor at a ball park always selling overpriced beer. Sometimes they'll give you a cold one and sometimes not so cold ones. But not once have I thought of wanting to know them intimately after the brief transaction unless this vendor looks like Jessica Simpson in a tube top. Most of the time the vendor looks like Roseanne Barr, also in a tube top. Just give me a cold one please, thank you. I'm going to keep my Schwinn for a while then. Its low maintenance and no problem with gas.
 
On a serious note, I must be one lucky dude because I've yet to see any of the guys from the dealers after my two purchase of a new car. I have a 2002 Subaru WRX and a 2006 Honda CRV. I still own both and have been very happy with both of them(incredibly troublefree), but I really would like a truck to either add or replace my Subaru car. I like the way the new GMC Sierra look but now have doubts after reading this forum. There is also a news regarding some GM dealers tampering with customer surveys. The only good truck left are the Tundra and Ridgeline on my list. Both of them are proven reliable, good quality trucks. Both are also ...how can I describe them...yeah, ugly for my taste. Arrghhh!!!! I'm particularly dissappointed with the Tundras interior. Buck Rogers flash if you know what I mean. As for the Ridgeline, its like the Japanese modern version of the El Camino with the added DNA of Godzilla in ruggedness and sex appeal.
 
The search continues....
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Re: Contemplating on buying my first GM. [gaspasser2] by obyone
Sep 11, 2007 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: gaspasser2 (Sep 11, 2007 2:37 am)

Most people that post here are for problems. Normally a problem free ownership experience usually would have you enjoying your vehicle rather than hang at an online forum. I can't believe that its the norm as far as becoming intimate with your dealership. My '02 Denali went in once in '03 under warranty to replace a sensor. My '05 Titan went in only once after 2.5 years of ownership to replace a couple of clips that broke.
 
Being the first redesign year for the Sierra/Silverado, I would seriously consider waiting another year before purchasing so that they can get the bugs out. Same with the Tundra. You may want to buy that Ridgeline soon as the way their sales are going it may become a classic. Seen one with 22" rims and it did warrant a second look as I've never seen anything like it.

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