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2007 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra - First Impressions

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05 Silverado by chorvath
Dec 17, 2005 (10:16 am)
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I bought my 05 work truck in April. It has exceeded anything I would want for a base truck. I got it for 13,500 with all rebates, discounts, and incentives. With 4.8 V-8, it has way more power than my 5.2 Ram did. Great truck, no problems 11,000 miles. Plus it will smoke almost anything I pull up next to, except a 5.3 Chevy.
Plus I get 19 mpg city and have gotten 24 mpg at steady 73 mph on turnpike.
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Re: GM's going to flop - Go with the TITAN [kirstie_h] by blkbltjkm
Dec 17, 2005 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Oct 28, 2005 2:55 am)

Everyone who talks about the GM going under needs to think. I currently own an 05 GMC Sierra 3500 and you cannot buy a 1 ton truck from Nissan, Toyota, or Honda! Unless those companies soon make those trucks they will never dominate the truck market completely. I have actually driven a Titan, and didn't like it very much, besides the design looks horrible.
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Re: GM's going to flop - Go with the TITAN [blkbltjkm] by thereisnospoon
Dec 26, 2005 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: blkbltjkm (Dec 17, 2005 6:47 pm)

Why in the world are you promoting the Titan? It has to be one of the biggest pieces of junk out there. Oil filter isn't even 6 inches long, the thing handles POORLY in side to side tests, has a bad crash test rating, and the frame bends like nothing when the rear suspension is being tested at 30mph. Of course, the Silverado does the same thing so I guess comparing the Titan to the Silverado is a good match. At least the Titan's engine cab is at least partially guarded unlike the good ol recall machine (aka Chevy Silverado). Piston slap, oil pressure problems, recalls like crazy - yeah, I'd say Silverado is a GREAT truck. Bowtie boosters, get your head out. F150 is the best truck out there - hands down. Go to http://www.truthabouttrucks.com and you'll see just how your "rugged" Silverado matches up to the rest of the competition. At least it wasn't QUITE as bad as the Titan and Tundra.
 
and, sorry but if you think that THIS truck looks good:
http://motortrend.com/future/spied/112_0509_spy_silverado_ps.jpg
that's the future of your beloved Silverado. even worse than the 06 (both under and over the hood). The technology of this 07 will MAYBE be equal to my 02 F150.
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Re: 05 Silverado [chorvath] by thereisnospoon
Dec 27, 2005 (9:00 pm)
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Replying to: chorvath (Dec 17, 2005 10:16 am)

Yeah right....
 
You getting 24mpg in a V8 with as crappy a design as ANY of the current Chevy engines is just like me saying that I just filled up my diesel F350 Heavy Duty for 98 cents/gallon.
 
I really hope you have no problems at 11,000 miles. Just wait - your problems are yet to come. I doubt your truck will be problematic after 50,000 miles. My brother-in-law's 2004 Silverado blew a motor and tranny at 45,000 miles. He's since bought an F150 (which he should have done in the first place) and remarks how it's "so weird" that his wheel doesn't shake when he goes over bumps and holes in his ranch, he can pull more with less effort, and he has a much better ride....hmm?? Wonder why? Could that be because the F150 is 10 years ahead of the current Silverado?????
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Silverado/Sierra Pickup Dominance by 455powered
Dec 29, 2005 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: navigator89 (Oct 27, 2005 10:23 pm)

This discussion is actually pretty interesting, considering how many flatlanders purchase pickups, drive them on the interstate and to soccer practice, and begin to think they can make a truck comparison. Many folks make a decision after driving one pickup, namely their own. I've lived in some very diverse places in the U.S., and here are my observations on late model pickups.
 
In Southern California and South Texas, guys buy 2 wheel drive Ford 1/2 tons for their wives because they think they want a pickup, and the price is right. The wife doesn't mind if the 4.6 liter has just enough torque to move it off of a standing start, or just enough traction to stay on wet pavement. The price is right, and Mommy gets a pickup. Best selling? Uh... whatever.
 
Here in northern Maine it's a different story, where extreme weather, deep-woods utility use, plow duty, tow duty, winch duty, overloaded beds, farm use, off-road use, and yes, highway travel is the norm, one pickup design is dominant on the market, the Chevy Silverado/GMC Sierra pair with the Gen III V8.
 
It isn't driven for the name, but for what it can do, and what it does.
 
One guy I know, a crew chief for a major logging company, drove a 2002 Ford Super Duty 4x4 assigned to him for work, 40 miles into the woods each way 6 days a week, loaded. Not only is he forced to apologize for driving a Ford, his boss had to apologize to HIM that the tranny cooked out at 40K miles and he was stuck in the woods. There were so many problems with actually USING the Ford "Super Duty" pickup they replaced them all. All of them. Every one.
 
I'm not even going to go into the also-ran category of 1/2 ton only Nissans and Toyotas. Having owned a 2002 Ford F-250 4x4 with the disturbingly underpowered 5.4 (sold that 'bargain' in a hurry after having looked in the trans pan after 20,000 miles-scary), driven a '04 Dodge Ram Hemi for work at length in all weather and surfaces (what a tinny, front-heavy, loud piece of crap), and going home to my '03 Silverado x-cab Z-71 with the 5.3 Gen III V8, it's good to be home.
 
It's all about the drivetrain at GM. Power? Tons of it. Torque? From off-idle all the way to the top. Economy? 15 in the woods, 19 on the interstate, mostly loaded. Reliability? The only warranty repair after 50,000 miles was a 4x4 wire I must have hung up working in my woodlot. Comfortable, safe, quiet,... the list goes on. That a 7 year old GM truck design can outsell (combined GMC and Chevy numbers) a fresh Ford F-150 design and a burly-looking but horribly engineered Dodge design is a testament to it's quality and market dominance.
 
I'll bet the 2007 Silverado/Sierra will be even better, a evolution of a great pickup, with wholly unnecessary but welcome engine improvements.
 
In a nutshell, don't let some "Weekend Warrior" flatlander spout off about working trucks he knows nothing about. He might be late to his corporate sales meeting.
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Go with the Chevy by 79customd
Dec 30, 2005 (7:29 am)
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Our family currently owns 3 GM trucks. The most recsent being a 2005 Silverado 2500 HD Duramax desiel. I'll let yawll fight on who's got the best gas engine but hands sown the best deisel engine in Chevys Duramax. Pulled a truck across the state a couple months ago, averaged 16.3 mpg pulling close 6500lbs. Can't beat that. running clean at 55 mph you can hit 21 mpg whh for a 6000lb truck ain to bad. I've driven a new F-150 and it is not the truck that it is cracked up to be. Acceleration is moderate but you have to revv that little 5.4L to get it. I beleive it aint the working truck that the Chevy is due to the bed being built for 10 footer. I'm 6'3" and it's all i can do to see over that bed. To lift anything up on the bed you would have to bench press it. A sack of Quick-Crete aint to light if you know what I mean. I buy trucks to work with them. I own a 1979 Chevy C10. Nuthin fancy, but it gets the job done without having to be a body builder. I believe the Titan is a pretty good truck and I beleive it will do good, but it will never rival the Fords, Dodges, or GM trucks in sales
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Re: Go with the Chevy [79customd] by thereisnospoon
Dec 31, 2005 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: 79customd (Dec 30, 2005 7:29 am)

I hear you talk and talk and talk about the dependability of Chevy. Blah blah blah.
 
Whatever.
 
Bottom line: The 2006 doesn't even have 50% of the technology that Ford's 1986 F150 has! If you do a straight line comparison between trucks, you'll see firsthand that the 1976 F150 compares right on par with the 2006 Silverado in the areas that actually count. Am I saying that OnStar and Satellite are worthless? Why yes...yes I am.
 
The 2006 F150? Well, Chevy hasn't even put a rival to that on paper yet because they keep "redesigning" a vehicle, hoping that people won't realize that they changed 1% of the parts they need to change, and 99% of the pieces that they don't.
 
Chevy hopes that their ads will make people believe that they're the most dependable trucks. Umm...whatever. Here in Texas, you see F350 Super Duty trucks and F150's on the roads AND the ranches. I admit that the CK trucks are good, but just like Toyota is doing, they're dragging out their dependability just a little bit too far. Too many new "American Revolution" trucks are going down way too fast - do some research and you'll see there are a SLEW of issues with these trucks.
 
It's rather interesting you mention harsh conditions. I quite distinctly remember when my wife and I were in the hills of Tennessee last December. We rented a 2004 4x4 F150. The snow plow in the town was a 2004 Z71 Silverado and, with CHAINS ON THE TIRES, it couldn't even make it up the mountain to plow the roads that we effortlessly were able to get up and down (without his assistance). When it was snowing and 8 degrees outside, I saw Ford and Dodge trucks on the road.....what does that mean to you???
 
Face it, Chevrolet has and always will stand for "Cracked Heads, Every Valve Rattles, Oil Leaks, Engine Ticks." If the Silverados perform well in Maine, it's probably because you waste money changing out engines and trannys every 40,000 miles.
 
The F150 HANDS DOWN is 10 years ahead of any truck on the market and second to none. Honda Ridgeline is second, RAM third, Tundra fourth, Chevy/GMC fifth, and Titan DEAD last.
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Re: Go with the Chevy [thereisnospoon] by navigator89
Jan 01, 2006 (12:50 am)
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Replying to: thereisnospoon (Dec 31, 2005 8:42 pm)

Since you're talking about full size trucks, the Ridgeline isn't really one. It's a midsize with a V6. It also has little towing and offroad ability so I'm not sure why you rank all the rest behind it.
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Re: Go with the Chevy [thereisnospoon] by 79customd
Jan 01, 2006 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: thereisnospoon (Dec 31, 2005 8:42 pm)

Sure Chevy has put a rival out to the 06 F-150. The Chevy Aveo!! Heck, I'd buy that before I buy this techno Expresso Jumble Bumble F-150 that all yawll drive in Texas,
But here in Carolina Basic simple and to the point engines are what cuts it. Also, I dont know how tall the average person is up there but we aint 8 feet tall like you have to be to use Fords Deep bed. Like I've said the only reason Ford has out sold Chevy is because if you buy a Chevy, it lasts for 15 years, You'll go thru 12 Fords in that time period. I'm not putting down the F-150, it looks pretty tuff sitting broke down on the side of the road. If thats what yawll call a truck. I'm kinda worried bout ya.
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Re: Go with the Chevy [thereisnospoon] by massdriver1
Jan 06, 2006 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: thereisnospoon (Dec 31, 2005 8:42 pm)

This discussion is getting ridiculous. There's NO brand of truck in '86 that "had as much technology" as any other of today's trucks.
  I guess Ford guys have to defend their brand with gross exaggerations.
 
  My buddy has a '97 F-150 (the used bar of soap style), with 100,000 miles. It's been an OK truck, but feels much more worn out than my '01 Silverado HD with the same miles.
 
  And to say thet today's F-150 is ten years ahead of other trucks...
 
  They do have nice interiors and look good. But the finally put in a 300 HP engine at a time when the competition is at about 350 HP. And the truck is so damn heavy, the tests all seem to use words like "sluggish, and "lethargic" to describe it.
 
  But to the topic at hand, if the new trucks are as reliable as my two previous Chevys were/are, then I'm in line for this next one.
 
  Hopefully the host will cut us a little slack with all this Ford/Chevy talk. But the topic is about a truck we know nothing about yet, so all we can do is speculate as of now.

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