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#392 of 506 Re: 2009 Santa Fe GLS poor gas mileage [disclosed]
by stevedebi
Feb 16, 2010 (5:52 pm)
"Overall, totally disappointed with Hyundai USA's response to my complaint. I have also asked them how they would fell about a class action law suit against the corporation. All I want them to do is repurchase this vehicle from me for what I paid for it. That's it. "
I've never heard of anyone winning one of these fights. The window stickers are pretty clearly marked - take a look at the "expected range" that is below the Highway MPG. What is the low value? The EPA is very careful, and I seriously doubt that Hyundai changed their programming before running the test and then changed it back after the test. Such an action would open them to big fines from the EPA.
The EPA tests are not very good indicators of MPG, in my experience. The heavier the vehicle, the worse it will be in actual use. As it says just below that on the window sticker, "your mileage may vary".
Good luck!
#393 of 506 Status of my case
by maddog611
Feb 24, 2010 (10:34 am)
Hi all,
I started a case with Hyundai and they said they have no control over how a dealership sells cars. Totally ridiculous. They directed me back to the dealership to battle it out. The general manager refused to give me even close to a fair deal on taking the vehicle back. This is not what I paid for. Car had 2700 miles and still getting same poor mpg, 15.3 city 17.1 overall 21.2 hwy. I traded it in for a 2010 Tucson at another dealership which is behaving as expected.
I just finished the deal and plan on taking additional action. I refuse to work with the 1st dealership again. I plan on filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau about their exaggerated claims on the Santa Fe's mileage and trying to cheat me on a trade-in. Once that is done I will resume my case with Hyundai and demand an inquiry be made on the Santa Fe's fuel economy. I never saw the middle or upper end of the estimated mpg. Always the bare minimum!!!
#394 of 506 Bad mileage too
by amperstam
Apr 05, 2010 (10:31 pm)
I'm in the same boat with my new 09 Elantra.
I'm getting 17 mpg when it should be WELL over twenty the way I drive.
On mine, the RPM's are too high at shift.
Its an automatic.
Its new. 4k miles.
Took it in last week. They tested it, then showed me the Dyno printout.
The service manager said all the shift RPM values were in line with factory specs. I said, "Yes, they are." Then I told him the Dyno misread EVERY shift. Showing them at between 1 and 2K RPM's, but my never shifts sooner than 3K RPM's. Which makes for a disgusting gas HOG!
So their machine lied, and I now have the printout to prove factory spec. All an investigator needs to do is look at the printout, then drive my car to see what liars these guys are, and that their Dyno equipment is rigged to give false values.
My car will not shift below 3K RPM's no matter what I do, or how I drive. I can drive slow, fast, medium. I can gun it a bit, then take my foot off the gas in an attempt to force a shift. Nada. It just stays in the low gear and winds down, consuming unreal amounts of fuel compared to label claims.
It seems I'm reading more and more of these bad MPG posts with Hyundai.
There is something funky up, and I'm ready to fight. Particularly now that even their Dyno has proved disgustingly innacurate, and I have the proof right here on my desk.
I welcome any and all emails. I am going to the states attorney with this. I am in California, and they tend to be tough on these sorts of things here.
The more people I can show experiancing this, the better.
John
#395 of 506 Re: What's the correct fuel tank capacity for my 2009 Santa Fe? [clamminfrank]
by wetsfee
Apr 26, 2010 (4:37 pm)
I just bought a 2010 sante fe and am having the same problem. The internet says 19.8 gallon fuel tank and the standard operating book i got with the car said 17.96. Based on the trip thing, when i fill up, I have 280 miles. at 20 mph, that would be a 14 gallon tank. I too bought the car because it had a 19.8 (or i thought it did) gallon tank. Does anyone know what's going on here and what the true capacity of the tank (2010) is?????
#396 of 506 Re: What's the correct fuel tank capacity for my 2009 Santa Fe? [wetsfee]
by clamminfrank
Apr 26, 2010 (4:59 pm)
Wow, finally someone who is experiencing the same frustration that I am. The dealer has been no help and neither has Hyundai Customer Service. This alone is enough to make me avoid future Hyundai purchase. I'm watching this thread closely for some clarification and explanation. Thanks Wetsfee!
#397 of 506 Bad Mileage
by obkt
Apr 28, 2010 (7:15 am)
I too am disappointed in the gas mileage. I have a 2010 limited FWD with the 4 cylinder. Here in southern New Mexico, the speeds are 75MPH (in West Texas it's 85MPH) I attribute the poor mileage to the 4 banger working hard to keep up with traffic. I recent run to Tucson gave me 19.7MPG. My V-6 Entourage did better than that. But in town I average around 24MPG.
One thing I found is driving in the manual mode. Transmission doesn't down shift at the slightest hill which keeps the RPM down.
Another thing to contemplate is the wheel size. I have 18" wheels on my Limited. I found that my speedo is dead on accurate. I've never owned a car where the speedo was dead on. Usually there's a 4-5 MPH difference in the reading verses what the car is doing. I doubt that Hyundai changes the final drive gear to compensate for the wheel size, so a Fe with the 17" wheels might be giving you a slightly false reading. We all need to get out the pencil and paper to figure out the mileage. Can't trust those computers.
As an aside, what's the big deal about the gas tank size? My bladder is only good for about 200 miles. Then I empty one tank and fill the other.
#398 of 506 Re: Bad Mileage [obkt]
by wetsfee
Apr 28, 2010 (6:01 pm)
The big thing about the gas tank is about 100 miles. I too stop at rest stops but they don't always have gas stations. Also, most of my trips are in the 300+ range, not 280 miles. Besides that, the car should have what the book says it has. Dealer told me it has 17.96 gallons. Seems more like it might be 14.5. Will wait till I fill it up. Getting over 22 mpg around town.
#399 of 506 Re: Bad Mileage [wetsfee]
by lil_doc
Apr 29, 2010 (8:14 am)
I too, in an earlier post, questioned the volume of the tank. Brought it to the attention of my dealer (he is in another state.) Stated that, in fact, the tank is the stated 19.8 gal. It was stated that there is about 3-4 gal remaining in the tank when the low fuel light comes on. As I don't want to test the theory, by running my tank dry, I will take his word for it, but watch carefully when the tank gets low. Looking at my "miles remaining" meter, it does appear that, based on 20 mpg I do have about 60-70 miles left on the tank.
If anyone hears differently, I am still interested to know if the stated volume is correct. Keep us all posted. Maybe someone here will actually run their tank empty and give a true fill-up. Not me, though.
#400 of 506 Re: Bad Mileage [lil_doc]
by clamminfrank
Apr 29, 2010 (8:48 am)
LOL, not me either. I am so tempted to run the tank empty but a mechanic friend of mine advised against saying that I could very well have a problem restarted. So for now, I'll just cringe everytime I fill the tank and see that my range is only 330 miles or so.
#401 of 506 Re: Bad Mileage [lil_doc]
by wetsfee
Apr 29, 2010 (10:28 am)
My dealer called me back yesterday and stated that the tank is 17.96 gallons. That is the same that is quoted in the book that I received with the car. I will be interested to see what happens when I let it go to empty, how many miles I actually got on a tank of gas. I am getting 22+ mpg around town, so I should be getting around 395 miles per tank. The range on the trip thing says 280. Quite a big difference. Over 100 miles difference. I also wondered if there were 4 gallons left in the tank. I know my old truck had about 2-3 gallons left in it after the needle went down to empty. (Folks may be wondering why I would let this happen - around here the local supermarket gives you anywhere from 10cents to 2.00 off per gallon, so you want to get all you can. Everyone drives in there on fumes.)