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Hyundai Elantra, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan
#606 of 657 Re: POOR GAS MILAGE 2012 ELANTRA [debbishaw1]
Mar 23, 2012 (6:56 am)
Actually, you should be around 33 combined, not 35: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=31016
But that number can vary based on a number of factors, including worse mileage in winter due to temps, worse mileage due to ethanol in the gas, driving habits, tire inflation, hilly terrain, worse mileage for the first few minutes after startup (MPG is always worse until the car reaches full operating temp), what each person considers to be "city" and "highway" driving, how fast you drive, and so on.
I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't be disappointed. Just that fuel economy is is complicated. FWIW my wife doesn't get 40 on the highway in her '12 Elantra either; more like about 36. But it's easily attributable to winter gas, ethanol, and her driving 75 or so MPH.
#608 of 657 disappointing mileage?
Mar 24, 2012 (4:50 pm)
I am now at 5000 miles and in some ways fuel economy has declined (not increased as I was told). 20 CITY/32 HWAY (at 62mph) It has been unseasonably warm here all winter, so it is not "frigid" temps. I am using the exact same driving style, under same conditions, as with my 10 yr old Honda, which when I gifted it to relative, was still getting 30/36. Dare I ever use the AC in this car?
"disappointed" isn't the correct word...
#609 of 657 Re: SD DEALER IGNORES MPG ISSUE ELANTRA [debbishaw1]
Mar 24, 2012 (4:56 pm)
My dealer was also unhelpful (now getting 20 city, 32 hway). However, a different dealer said he'd be willing to talk...I initially received a sympathetic ear from the regional Hyundai folks I called (someone there acknowledged having heard feedback about low mileage) but when an "official" called me back, he was actually snippy and told me to do a mileage check, when I asked him to explain he said the equivalent of "how should know?") However, I note my mileage at every fill-up (I go to the same station/same pump each time).
I am also going to talk with another car company altogether and see what happens.
#610 of 657 2011 Elantra after reaching 12000 miles in 10 Months
Mar 25, 2012 (8:12 am)
I have driven almost 12000 miles in little less than 10 months now. I am getting in the range of 29 to 36 in mixed weather & driving style. I think temperature varies the mileage a lot atleast for Elantra. Here's are my some observation.
1) During initial 1000 break-in miles I was getting 27-29 mpg in 40% city & 60% highway (Was driving 60 miles/day including 5-6 miles of Manhattan's stop & go traffic everyday) --- this was in June-2011 when temperature was between 70-90
2)After break-in period I was able to get 32-35 mpg going at 70 MPH (Same 60 miles commute everyday including Manhattan) This was during July 2011 and 70-90 temperature
3)Once winter started and temperature reached below 50 (varying between 20' F to 50' F), was getting 29-31 MPG in 50%-50% mixed highway/City (This includes 42 miles/day commute with 20 miles of constant highway going at 70 MPH, and 22 miles of Stop & Go from 30-45 MPH
4)Now, as again summer started this time little early and temperature started reaching above 55'F, started getting 32-33 MPG in same manner of driving as just above.
During Winter, while filling up Tank, it shows 320-325 Miles in the meter, while currently (during 55'-70') it shows 340-345 Miles, and once it will go above 75 'F (It will show around 355 Miles) and getting maximum Mileage of upto 35MPG in 50%-50% mixed driving
Have tried ECO mode too, but couldnt found any difference.
Once, I tried a full trip of 270 miles (135 miles each way which includes driving constantly at 75 to 80 MPH for 115 Miles & stop & go for other 20 miles) during winter (Temperature was 25' F) --- and got 31 MPG for 270 miles trip (Mileage was noted manually after filling up the tank before staring of the trip & after again after filling at 270 miles)
2nd time, same mentioned trip recently , but between 65-70 'F temperature, and got 34 MPG which is pretty good while driving at 75-80 MPH.
Haven't tried purely in the City, but shouldn't be able to get more than 26-28 MPG if driving 80% City and 20% highway.
Dont know what is happening with some folks here saying getting around 20-25 MPG!!!
#613 of 657 Re: Woman who sued in small claims court WON!! [backy]
May 10, 2012 (8:03 pm)
As they should have. The "revised" EPA figures are very achieveable (hundreds of drivers bear this out on numerous websites). I agree the original EPA numbers would be tough to hit, but those "old" EPA figures were tough to hit in most cars.
#614 of 657 Re: Woman who sued in small claims court WON!! [dodgeman07]
May 10, 2012 (8:35 pm)
I agree that a lot of people complain for no good reason. However, this has nothing to do with just achieving EPA numbers like you're talking about...old or new. Hell, most people if they tried didn't have that much trouble achieving the "old" EPA numbers either. This lawsuit was about Honda, a couple of years in, reprogramming the car so the battery would last past the warranty period which in turn reduced the MPG drastically. So they screwed their customer's MPG to keep from having to replace expensive batterys. The reprogramming changed the car from what they had purchased. I believe most people were getting the expected MPG on these Civic Hybrids before Honda did the reprogramming so it's not just a matter of a few people not getting the exact EPA numbers.
Say a manufacturer found out your tranny would blow during warranty and they would end up replacing trannies left and right. So they do a recall and change the gears in the tranny to make it last longer so they don't suffer a huge monetary loss. But by doing this it cut your MPG from 30 to 20. Would you be a happy camper? Would you want to sue because your nice car that was getting 30mpg now only gets 20mpg because your carmaker messed with your tranny to save themselves money?
I think this superior court judgement has a good chance of being overruled.
#615 of 657 Re: Woman who sued in small claims court WON!! [m6user]
May 11, 2012 (6:02 pm)
If what you say is true, Honda modified the vehicles with the full knowledge that said modifications made it impossible (or very unlikely) to achieve EPA fuel mileage estimates, then it's a clear case in the owner's favor.
The owners would need to prove that Honda modified their vehicles and did so knowing the result(s) would include inferior mileage. That is a bit tougher, especially when data is available for 2006 Civic Hybrids that meet EPA and owner's requirements (averaging over 40mpg). The court would have to assume at least some of the vehicle data was collected from modified vehicles unless verifiable, empirical data to the contrary was presented.
There again, things in the courtroom generally favor whomever can afford the best counsel. There's no doubt about the favorite in that case!