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Hyundai Elantra, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan
Nov 08, 2011 (4:10 am)
I've got over 4000 miles on my 2012 Elantra and the mileage is NOT getting any better. The computer based Avg Mpg is getting better, but when you do the math after filling up it is wrong. Right now I get about 3mpg below the computers numbers. As I said in an earlier post you will have to learn to drive this car a certain way if you want to get even close to the advertised MPG.
I used CR, Motor Trend, and personal driving to help make my decision about the Elantra. For the money it is a well equipped and well appointed car. However, I was expecting better average mpg. In the Motor Trend review they commented that they could not get the advertised mileage. I read that and thought that not paying the premium (+/- $2K) for the Civic would make up for the difference. Now, experience shows that I will eat up that premium long before I can afford to get rid of the car.
I'm pretty sure we all understand how the mileage estimates are derived by the EPA and Hyundai. However, when the car consistently delivers less than the lower estimate I think we have a problem. I hope those of you making dismissive comments about our comments are 2011/2012 Elantra owners!!
I've owned this car since June and right now I'm on the fence about Hyundai and the Elantra. A big issue is the fuel, but I've also got some other complaints. The fuel issue (trust?) taints all the other issues as well. If I had to make a decision today I'd tell others not to buy the Elantra and to be wary of Hyundai.
#478 of 657 Re: I'm back... [thfrazer]
Nov 08, 2011 (6:20 am)
You must drive a simply huge number of miles if the 1MPG difference in the overall average EPA ratings between a '12 Civic and a '12 Elantra were a significant factor. Assuming $3.50/gallon it'll take about 600,000 miles of driving to erase the Civic's $2K price premium.
My wife has a '12 Elantra Limited, BTW. She bought it in September so she's only on her 2nd tank of gas (the first tank was the "free" one that came with the car).
Out of curiosity, what are you other complaints?
#479 of 657 Re: me too on the mpg's 21012 elantra [oldburbnewcx9]
Nov 08, 2011 (6:59 am)
I have to agree with you. The thing that all these owners complaining about mpg are missing is that they purchased one of the best compact sedans available. Enjoy your car.
What if they purchased the car on the premise that they would get the estimated fuel economy and they are not able to achieve it? I think they have a right to gripe.
When you purchase a commodity expecting it to be one thing, and turns out to be another, it is well within their right to be disappointed.
Suing, on the other hand, is a bit extreme. It is up to the legal system to determine if that suit is valid, not us. Personally, I do not agree with suing in cases like this, but I'm not of proper authority to tell people they can't.
#480 of 657 Re: me too on the mpg's 21012 elantra [aviboy97]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Nov 08, 2011 (9:18 am)
Well sure, you CAN file suit against anyone you want to. The problem here would likely be getting a lawyer to take it on. Since the burden of proof is on the accuser, there would be extensive costs associated with attempting to prove that Hyundai deliberately engineered test vehicles to receive a higher EPA MPG rating, and that vehicles being sold to consumers with the EPA stickers on them are NOT the same vehicles tested by the EPA.
Cases like this would be handled on contingency, meaning the lawyer(s) receive nothing unless they are able to successfully prove their case, and all of the "obtaining proof" costs come out of their pockets.
Such a "rigging" scheme would be a high-risk proposition as well, as it necessarily relies on the cooperation of all individuals involved, and the non-guarantee that none of them will become a whistleblower in the future.
I'm not saying it could never happen; just that other factors (including a potential flaw in some vehicles) are more likely to account for the disparities.
#481 of 657 Re: me too on the mpg's 21012 elantra [kirstie_h]
Nov 08, 2011 (10:21 am)
Cars are engineered to meet specific standards, such as EPA estimates and CAFE standards. Just how companies decide to reach those objectives is up to them. Engineering a vehicle to list stats on paper does not mean it will translate into real-world performance. This is nothing new. It is up to the consumer to do research, take test drives and form an opinion before they buy and if all goes well, they will not have buyers remourse. Well, that's the idea anyway. Not everyone does that, unfortunately.
I do agree with you about law suits. In a case like this, it is pointless and does nothing but waste money. However, I have been in several forums on Edmunds where topics of class action suits come up because an owner(s) are displeased with what they purchased. People are sue happy, I guess.
#482 of 657 Re: me too on the mpg's 21012 elantra [aviboy97]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Nov 08, 2011 (10:30 am)
Unfortunately, many consumers genuinely believe that a class action lawsuit will bring real resolution to their problems when in fact, that's often the least productive method of getting results, at least in any timely manner.
You're almost always better off being persistent, or working with your own legal counsel if that's the route you choose. If you have a good dealership, sometimes they can help you get action. Sometimes not.
However, class action lawsuits tend to take years to resolve, and at the end of it all - if your side prevails - the outcome for the consumer is usually a set of options: if you still own the vehicle, you'll get some sort of "fix" to be implemented, or a gas card worth $50 (to compensate for the lost mileage) or a $500 off certificate toward the purchase of a vehicle from the same manufacturer you just sued. Not what most people have in mind when they think "class action lawsuit," but that's pretty standard.
#483 of 657 Mileage on my 2012 Elantra Limited
Nov 08, 2011 (2:13 pm)
I've had my Elantra since Sept 3. Currrently I have just over 4000 miles on it. (42 mile commute daily). Accordingn to the computer I am averaging 33 mpg, exactly what the window sticker says it will average. I went from getting 23 mpg with a 2003 Mazda6, so I'm pretty happy. One experiment I'm trying on my current tank of gas is turning the ECO mode on. Seems to be getting about the same mileage. But driving in this mode seems like it would delivery WORSE mileage to me. Each gear winds out longer, which makes for a higher tach speed for each gear. So I must not understand what this is really supposed to do. This is the first time I've used the ECO mode. Don't know which I like better. The gear change points seem to match my 2003 manual Mazda6 as far as the tach. Don't know if this is better or worse.....
What are other's thoughts about using the ECO mode?
On another note: I have the tech package, with blu-tooth. My phone pairs with it well except for one thing. For about 4 weeks I had my contacts transferred to the car. Now they won't transfer any longer no matter what I do. I've deleted my phone and repared about 4 times. Each time it won't import my contacts. (Yes, that option is turned on). Anyone else have this issue?
For the most part though I LOVE my new car.....
#484 of 657 1st Tank Results for new '12 GLS AT--29.9 mpg
Nov 09, 2011 (4:10 pm)
Gassed up and got 29.9 mpg in mostly city driving but some interstate. This was the actual result based on fuel pumped into the tank, but was also very close to what the computer calculated. Still not out of the break-in period, though the owner's manual says 600 miles in one place (p. 1-5) and 1,200 miles in another place (back cover). I'm going with 87 octane regular unleaded rather than 89 octane ethanol.
#485 of 657 Re: I'm back... [thfrazer]
Nov 09, 2011 (4:11 pm)
agreed--I do not trust the manufacturer and I bought this car for mileage and reliability. I am sorely disappointed that 9.5 years after my last car purchase, I am getting significantly WORSE mileage for similar class of car. Hope at some point Hyundai acknowledges this issue. Meantime, I will get out of my lease early.
#486 of 657 Re: me too on the mpg's 21012 elantra [aviboy97]
Nov 09, 2011 (4:17 pm)
I would be a lot more satisfied if corporate and the dealer were ablew to acknowledge my disappointment (obviously, for legal reason, they can't at present agree that this model will never achieve EPA estimates. And yes. I think all of us understand the term "estimate."
Corporate recently told me to have the dealer's service dept complete a "fuel mileage mechanical check" whatever that is. Will do so soon.