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#96 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [theshum]
by revss
May 22, 2012 (4:02 pm)
I purchased a 2012 Ford Focus Titanium. It has 1240 miles on it and I am only getting 21 MPG. I drive mostly city which is flat. This does not seem to be
good. I was told that I needed to wait longer for the car to break in by the dealer. Up to the first service which is 7500. Is that right? The manual says that there is a 1K break in period. I get about 250 miles out of one tank.
#97 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [revss]
by kam327
May 22, 2012 (5:51 pm)
Yeah that is unusually bad. Go on fuelly.com and you'll see that most people average 31-32. Of course if all you take is short city trips with lots of stops it'll be significantly worse than that. My mileage gradually increased a few mpg over 3,000 miles, now have about 4,500 on the odo and averaging 33 in suburban driving. But short low-speed trips will kill mileage in any car. What were you driving before and what mileage did you get on the same route?
#98 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [kam327]
by bwhittle216
May 22, 2012 (6:47 pm)
I have had my 2012 ford focus se sport since last june, have 26000 miles plus on it and still get an average of 29.58 mpg using 100% gas and driving 90 % on flat four lane road.
I would suggest you continue to keep in contact with the dealership if your mileage does not improve. By their ( Ford) standards; do 5 fillups and document the mpg on each tank of gas and then divide by 5 the total miles to see what your average is then. The added frustration of the under-performance is seeing a ford add humpteen times a day on their 40 mpg cars. Argggg.
#99 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [kam327]
by revss
May 22, 2012 (8:43 pm)
I was driving a Mazda Tribute(compact SUV) and getting about 14 MPG.
My commute to work is about 6 miles on streets. Actually that is not
100% true. Most of the mornings I do try to use the freeway but I'm only on that maybe 4 miles? I think I should see at least 27-28 not 20-21.
#100 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [revss]
by kam327
May 23, 2012 (11:46 am)
I think your expectations were too high. Depending on the year and engine of your Tribute, the EPA ratings of the Focus are probably around 50% higher than the Tribute, not double. So why would you expect double the fuel economy on the same route and driving habits? In fact, you're getting exactly 50% better mileage with the Focus, as the difference in EPA ratings would suggest.
I was getting about 20mpg on my commute with my '08 Mazda Tribute V6 AWD, and getting 33mpg with the Focus now, a 65% increase. Applying that 65% increase to your Tribute's 14mpg, you should be seeing 23mpg with the Focus (14 * 1.65 = 23). But if your Tribute did not have V6 and/or AWD, you would be seeing less of a % increase, in other words closer to the 50% discussed above.
#101 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [kam327]
by revss
May 23, 2012 (1:27 pm)
So here's the the thing. My Mazda was a v-6 all wheel drive. It was slated to get 18/23 MPG. Probably more than anything the reason my mileage was so low was because it had over 100K and not maintained very well, just oil changes every 3500K.
But to compare my Mazda with the focus is an unfair comparison. Two completely different beasts.
The posted EPA ratings for my Focus are 27 city 38 highway with a 31 mixed.
If I look on sites like Edmunds and feuleconomy.gov people are getting around those numbers.
My car is currently in the shop and I'm renting a 2012 Yaris and driving it the same way I do my focus along the same route and I'm getting 26MPG. So something else is going on with my car.
And no I don't think I'm expecting too much. I based my purchase like I think a lot of others do based on those MPG numbers.
If you have to drive with the AC off or the Windows open or you have to get out an push to get those numbers then they are not realistic.
The numbers shouldn't be from a test track or a Dyna machine, they should be real world.
To me and I've asked others, city driving means a lot of stop and go and short drive lengths between lights.
Highway is free flowing traffic allowing for the engine to work optimally at the 65MPH.
Mixed is a combination of stop and go and full flowing.
Anyways, there was a recall out to have the Power Train Module(PTM) and another module which I'm forgetting the name of to be re-programmed so I'm hoping that helps.
Also of note, i read on a forum that this recall notice was applied to a persons focus who was getting 29MPG and after the notice was applied they were now getting 20MPG. Hmmmm...
#102 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [revss]
by kam327
May 23, 2012 (1:49 pm)
You're missing the point - your Tribute was probably rated about 20mpg combined. But you only got 14mpg due to your driving habits, which is 0.7 of 20. So it's reasonable to apply that 0.7 to the Focus's combined rating as well. And wouldn't you know it 0.7 of the Focus's combined rating of 31 is 21.7. That's what you should expect to get.
You can't expect one car to perform significantly better relative to its EPA rating than another car on the same route.
And the Yaris - how many days have you been driving it? You need at least 3-4 days of the same type of driving to compare apples to apples. It's the high time percentage of driving with a cold engine that's killing your MPG (on both your Tribute AND your Focus). In other words, many short trips versus fewer long trips is bad for fuel economy.
It is not a "recall" you're talking about, it's an "FSA" which means it's voluntary. If you're talking about the forum "focusfanatics", there are many on there who've had it done and 99% praise the results. They love it. I haven't seen anyone complain of reduced fuel economy afterwards.
#103 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [kam327]
by revss
May 23, 2012 (2:05 pm)
If 21.7 is what I should expect than that should've been the number that was in bold not these other superfluous numbers that apparently aren't real. Again, thats what I based my purchase on. If I had seen 21MPG I might as well have purchased another Tribute because I was getting 21MPG when it was new!
In regards to the Yaris I've had it for 3 days driving the same route and actually more aggressive and have seen better gas mileage, 26MPG, what I expect to see from my focus based on the posted MPG, so please explain.
"Recall" is what the dealer called it and they didn't say that it was voluntary.
#104 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [revss]
by kam327
May 23, 2012 (4:53 pm)
Wait a minute, you just said you were getting 14 mpg in the Tribute on your commute.
#105 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [kam327]
by revss
May 23, 2012 (8:27 pm)
I was but when it was new I was getting around 20-21.