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Ford Focus: MPG-Real World Numbers

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#156 of 177 Re: 35 mpg average for 5-speed manual [scrapple1] by joegiant

Nov 21, 2012 (2:26 am)

Replying to: scrapple1 (Sep 26, 2012 6:15 pm)
Just crossed into the 38mpg's(38.3 to be exact) on my lying onboard readout w/90% hwy driving on this commuter. A MT as well. I'm happy.

#157 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [kam327] by mo614

Jan 21, 2013 (5:29 pm)

Replying to: kam327 (May 24, 2012 10:10 am)
Thanks for your effort. Your comments and explanations to revss have been logical and accurate. I'm sure most readers have been able to understand and agree with your reasoning. Maybe if revss re-reads the posts and thinks about them some more, he'll get it too. My two cars, now with 80,000 and 90,000 mile odometer readings, go the same miles per gallon as they did during their first 5,000 miles. I bought them new about eight years ago. Neither has had any engine or transmission repairs, but have had regular oil changes and routine maintenance. With our driving styles and routes, each vehicle matches the EPA numbers, city and highway. I use a calculator each time I re-fuel. MPG = trip odometer miles divided by gallons burned between fill-ups. I don't guess by watching fuel gauge needle positions or on-board electronic MPG (estimate) displays.

#158 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [mo614] by revss

Jan 21, 2013 (5:41 pm)

Replying to: mo614 (Jan 21, 2013 5:29 pm)
I use a calculator as well and I get 21 MPG in city and 28 highway. However I disagree with both yourself and Kam. Why do you think Hyundai got sued?? It's just a matter of time for Ford.

#159 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [revss] by mo614

Jan 21, 2013 (5:53 pm)

Replying to: revss (Jan 21, 2013 5:41 pm)
Depending on your driving style and route, the percentages of EPA numbers you are achieving may be the same as you'd realize if you were driving other makes and models. The EPA numbers do not exist to tell you what fuel economy you will get, but only how one vehicle will compare to another given the same (tested) driving conditions. In your situation, my guess is you'd not get the EPA average in any car.

#160 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [revss] by kam327

Jan 22, 2013 (7:36 am)

Replying to: revss (Jan 21, 2013 5:41 pm)
"Why do you think Hyundai got sued?? It's just a matter of time for Ford."
 
If Ford has maliciously cooked the books like Hyundai did, then yes they should be punished. But there's no evidence of that, and many Focus owners are routinely achieving the EPA ratings in their everyday driving, like me.
 
Hyundia was punished because they upset the apples to apples comparison that the EPA ratings afford. And that's all they afford. They DO NOT guarantee you performance. Many folks are lucky enough because of their driving habits and routes to actually achieve the EPA ratings, but many do not.
 
Hyundia tried to give themselves an unfair competitive advantage by making it seem like their apple (in the EPA apples-to-apples comparison scheme) was shinier and more red. Big mistake.

#161 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [kam327] by revss

Jan 22, 2013 (7:45 am)

Replying to: kam327 (Jan 22, 2013 7:36 am)
" and many Focus owners are routinely achieving the EPA ratings in their everyday driving, like me."
 
Well if you read through this thread and others, there people getting mileage just like me.
 
Again, time will tell.

#162 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [revss] by kam327

Jan 23, 2013 (7:27 am)

Replying to: revss (Jan 22, 2013 7:45 am)
"Well if you read through this thread and others, there people getting mileage just like me. "
 
Of course there will always be a relatively small number that buck the average for whatever reason. Unusual mechanical failure or whatever.
 
But the overall average of Focus drivers are hitting the EPA estimates. Just look at fuelly.com. The 424 2012 Focus owners there are reporting an overall average of 31.4 mpg, right on the money with respect to the EPA combined rating of 31mpg.
 
Whereas the 174 2012 Elantras reported on there are getting ONLY a combined rating of 29.8 mpg, relative to the higher EPA combined rating of 33 mpg.
 
Focus: 31 EPA combined rating - 31.4 real world average
Elantra: 33 EPA combined rating - 29.8 real world average
 
Hopefully it's clear to you now why Hyundai got into trouble and Ford will not.

#163 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [kam327] by revss

Jan 23, 2013 (7:40 am)

Replying to: kam327 (Jan 23, 2013 7:27 am)
"Of course there will always be a relatively small number that buck the average"
 
The numbers you gave 424 & 174 are a small number out of the total sold.
Not a good comparison.

#164 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [revss] by kam327

Jan 23, 2013 (7:42 am)

Replying to: revss (Jan 23, 2013 7:40 am)
"The numbers you gave 424 & 174 are a small number out of the total sold.
Not a good comparison."
 
Ever heard of statistics? That's called a sample. There's no reason to believe the data in fuelly.com does not represenent a fair sample of all Focus owners.

#165 of 177 Re: Ford Focus Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [kam327] by revss

Jan 23, 2013 (7:51 am)

Replying to: kam327 (Jan 23, 2013 7:42 am)
Yeah I've heard of statistics. What is that sample against 1,000, 100,000, 1,000,000?
 
You need to know that, otherwise thats a small sample.

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