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Re: Dig the new interiors [callmedrfill]
by cubs25
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Oct 11, 2005 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Oct 10, 2005 10:24 pm)
good point
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Re: Dig the new interiors [callmedrfill]
by blckislandguy
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Oct 11, 2005 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Oct 10, 2005 10:24 pm)
Amen. The only thing I can add to this excellent post is that supposedly bringing big Bob Lutz , the car guy extradinaire, in was going to revitalize the product line. Bob has had more jobs with more manufacturers in the industry than anyone. The ex-Marine who commutes to work in his helicopter was going to infuse GM with his product knowledge. Haven't seen it yet and the jury is still very much out on the new Yukon. The specs are not much different from a 1965 Ford Country Squire, except the Country Squire had a two way tail gate (as I recall, it could swing open to one side or be opened and pulled down) which GM hasn't matched.
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Re: The Devil is in the Details: Lets Wait to See What GM Does [mbrochujr]
by tdoh
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Oct 12, 2005 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: mbrochujr (Oct 05, 2005 4:25 pm)
Re: your Armada vs. Denali comparo--Denali offers 2nd-row captains chairs, so I dunno how the fact that the Armada offers them too makes it a "better" feature on the Armada. Yes, I'm nitpicking--if not quibbling--a bit here but at the same time, I could also add that I can't see how a 7" non-touchscreen nav available on the Armada could be considered "better" than the 6.5" touchscreen one available on the Denali--I dunno about you but I'm willing to bet that most people would take a 6.5" touchscreen over a 7" non-touchscreen any day of the week. And although the Armada may indeed have "better" features than the Denali at "much less" (I assume you were referring to price), the Armada does not come w/ a 6-liter engine like that found in the Denali, so your power comment regarding the 5.3L GM engine is a little out of place--IOW, it would be a bit unfair to favorably compare the Armada to two different trim lines of Yukons (different in that Denalis only come with the 6-liter engine). At the same time, one could have argued that--until recently--an Armada could not be had for "much less" than a Denali, given the just-expired GM Employee Discount promotion.
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Re: Yukon [1487]
by tdoh
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Oct 12, 2005 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: 1487 (Oct 08, 2005 11:58 am)
I think the front end could have been styled a bit more differently; I mean, it sure looks a lot like an Envoy front end...just bigger.
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Re: Yukon [tdoh]
by cubs25
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Oct 12, 2005 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: tdoh (Oct 12, 2005 8:37 am)
ya it does damn and i think the tahoes went down hill after the year 2000 and on becasue of how they make things so damn cheap now and everything
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Re: The Devil is in the Details: Lets Wait to See What GM Does [tdoh]
by blckislandguy
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Oct 12, 2005 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: tdoh (Oct 12, 2005 8:31 am)
It goes without saying that the reason why an Armada can now be had for less money than a Denali is the horrible QC problems Nissan has had and the resulting slow sales. Want more info? Cruise over to the Armada board and learn all about flexing roofs, wind noise, etc. Nissan dealers in New England still can't sell their '05s.
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Re: The Devil is in the Details: Lets Wait to See What GM Does [blckislandguy]
by founder
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Oct 12, 2005 (11:49 pm)
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Oct 12, 2005 6:56 pm)
Amen!! The Nissan products , which is the armada and the QX56 are problem vehicles. It's best to pass on them for the moment. As for the new GMC Denali, well all I can say is that I'm disappointed at the weak fuel economy. The Denali is still getting the same as the past models.13 miles in the city isn't that good, especially with rising gas prices. I like the redesigned, althougth the front is a bit to envoyish for me, but it looks nice. I hpe the quality is up to par.
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Re: The Devil is in the Details: Lets Wait to See What GM Does [founder]
by blckislandguy
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Oct 13, 2005 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: founder (Oct 12, 2005 11:49 pm)
I looked at a Denali last winter and the exterior styling was fine. But the General was up to his old tricks on the inside. There was nothing fifty grand about the interior. As I remember the seats were just the usual GM seats in leather although the center console had a flap of leather across the top unlike the Yukon. No zenons, no real fog lights, no Coach leather, no Ricaro seats or even SAAB or Volvo seats with power lumbar and cooling, no super trick roof rack (boats can have pop up cleats; why couldn't an SUV have a pop up roof rack?), etc. All in all it was nothing special. In fact, with the exception of the 6.0 engine it was little more than what you could get in a more modestly priced Yukon. (Although the lower priced Yukon would have a two speed transfer case in the event you ever went off road, wanted to plow your driveway on Thanksgiving morning in Maine or haul a boat up a slippery ramp). I bought a Cayenne instead but would have bought the Denali if for 50K it had something, anything, unique about the interior. In this entry level luxury price bracket you want something a little bespoke.
I hope that the Tahoe/Denalli revision will be more upscale.
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Re: The Devil is in the Details: Lets Wait to See What GM Does [blckislandg
by dieselone
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Oct 14, 2005 (4:57 am)
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Oct 13, 2005 4:58 pm)
Your 100% correct on the current Denali interior, it is really bad for a vehicle that expensive.
I like the Denali better than a Suburban, but the fake carbon fiber look was just horrible, IMO. I ended up with a Suburban instead. Wish I could have gotten the 6.0L though. The 5.3 comes up short on towing power.
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Re: Almost Great But [4rider]
by jaxengine
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Oct 18, 2005 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: 4rider (Sep 21, 2005 11:00 am)
I'd really like to get some more information on the 2007 Sequoia new skin and engine.... what do you know and where can I go to learn more?
Thanks
Jaxengine
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