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#374 of 3150 is Chevy on this planet..
Feb 06, 2006 (6:09 pm)
went to check out the '07 Tahoe this morning at my local dealer.. .. since '99 we've had four 4x4 Suburbans and currently have an '04 Subn and wife has '04 T-B that is ending lease in a few months...
.. what a disappointment this was today... I asked for the keys to the '07 Tahoe LT sitting outside the showroom in the lot from the sales manager who I've dealt with on all our leases before..
are they kidding me or what.. the rear looks like an Expedition.. the sides look like an Explorer and the front looks like a TrailBlazer.. what originality on GM's part..
the interior was supposed to be new.. it's terrible.. they made it 'convex' pulling in toward the passengers rather than leave it away from them giving a more roomy feel... they can keep their cheap wood too.. the dials, buttons and steering wheel controls are for hunger and not user friendly...
I was not happy when they 'ruined' the look of the old style Suburban after my '99 boxy look ..they rounded it off in 2000 chopping the overall roominess out of it.. and now this...
and for those who want the tranny shifter on the floor..why.. for what reason.. all it does is get in the way like in my wife's Trailblazer..no purpose there..this isn't a sports car.... I'd like to see them do away with that 'hump floor console'and just leave the center console between the seats..like the old models had it.. more room... can't have enuff room..
and the kicker and what I feel is the worst design is the second row bucket seats.. when they supposedly fold flat that are 8-10" higher than my '04 Subn as they are 'one-piece'...not 'flat' by any stretch... the only way to flip them forward is the entire seat flips including the seatback.... which then takes up most of that middle seat area.. are they nuts or what... we're only a two person family.. so I leave my second row seats flat.. and get rid of that third row seat.. never used it yet..
saw the 'electronic' rear hatch... give me a break.. it's an accident waiting to happen...
after seeing this travesty of pseudo-new design.. I decided I didn't even want to take a test drive.. now I have to figure out what am I going to replace my big boat Suburban with come the end of this year when my lease is up..sad... I can guarantee I won't be getting one of the new ones if it mirrors the Tahoe like I know it will.. then again maybe they'll be into the $7-8K rebates plus 0% financing below Employee discount pricing by then as these will sit on the lots...
what a mess.. I can see why GM is where they are ..they hurried this new design to get the new motor onto the market just for better mileage.. that'll fail big time.. and their non-original upgrades and design will make a lot of die hard Suburban-Tahoe Yukonites go in other directions... I know I will.. unbelievable is all I can say.. sad
#375 of 3150 a-ha...maybe there is hope...
Feb 07, 2006 (4:06 am)
after our disappointment with the new '07 Tahoe yesterday might have an alternative to replace my 'burban after my lease expires the end of the year...
the new Expedition EL... at least the seats fold flat! ... to us Chevy..Ford.. same same... we've had Explorers.. Expeditions in the past... whoever 'sharpens the pencil' plus has the right layout for our needs gets our bizness..
. scroll down the page about two thirds of the way for the pics.. they say it should hit the market the fall of this year..
#376 of 3150 Re: a-ha...maybe there is hope... [stakeout]
Feb 07, 2006 (6:03 am)
Fold flat? Hmm that plywood covered up something and looks like a ski ramp. Its a good 10 inches higher in the front.
Shift on the floor. I thought you wanted it on the column?The center consol is huge, and the dash looks like a flat piece of plastic. At least the Tahoe has a storage area an not that goofy shift lever.
What's with the hood design? There is a big wart (bump) on the nose/hood.
#377 of 3150 Re: a-ha...maybe there is hope... [stakeout]
Feb 07, 2006 (7:30 am)
Looks like the Expedition EL has an under-floor storage compartment in the very back. I'm sure it's quite shallow, but I found that very convenient in my prior car, a Mitsubishi Outlander. It kept the air compressor, flash light, tarp, bungee cords, and of course duct tape out of the way. The back of my Yukon XL has a cubby in the rear side area, but it doesn't quite hold it all.
And, it may be an optical illusion, but the new GMs' rear area looks deeper than the Exp. EL's. That is nice. I have filled up every square inch of the rear of my Yukon XL on camping trips. It's great to be able to fit large ice chests and rubbermaid tubs of gear in long ways.
Can't quite tell which will have the most third row leg room and head room. They say the third row of the EL should accommodate adults 6'2". I can get into the third row of my 2005 YXL, but it's not comfy. However, it's usually just kids back there, I'll take cargo space over back seat leg room if I had to choose.
Looking forward to a comparison test!...
Feb 07, 2006 (7:47 am)
You know what else would be cool in a large SUV is an outside accesible side cubby, like on the Nissan Titan pickup. I bet the long wheelbase SUVS (Suburban, Exp EL) could accommodate that. It would be a great place to keep some tools and stuff.
#379 of 3150 Sticker Shock
Feb 07, 2006 (8:19 am)
Has anybody seen the MSRPs on these vehicles? The Tahoe and Yukon just hit our local dealers. The Tahoe and Yukon with leather and 3rd row seats with nothing else special were stickered at $44,000. The Tahoe with nav system and some other extras was $49,000. This ain't an Escalade or Denali. Am I crazy or are they pricing themselves out of the market for this type of vehicle?
#380 of 3150 Re: Sticker Shock [whitney3]
Feb 07, 2006 (8:25 am)
Yes, and Yes!!!
#381 of 3150 Re: Sticker Shock [whitney3]
Feb 07, 2006 (8:59 am)
My local dealer had an 07 Tahoe LTZ that was $50k. I can't speak for the market, but I can speak for myself. I won't spend that much on an SUV. My Suburban only has 62k on it so I'll wait until the new models show up on the used lots for a significant savings. I don't need to be the first on block to have one.
#382 of 3150 Re: is Chevy on this planet.. [stakeout]
Feb 07, 2006 (8:59 am)
You must have some strange criteria for SUVs. The experts are giving it rave reviews and sales so far are double what they expected so it is obviously getting a good reception by the public.
Are you sure you were at a Chevy dealership?
#383 of 3150 Re: Sticker Shock [whitney3]
Feb 07, 2006 (10:53 am)
100% yes. I have been buying imports for a long time and was thinking of giving GM a chance with the Yukon. I got stiker shock as well; they are pricing themselves out of the market, and this is going to help Sequoia and Armanda. A Yukon Denali for $58K(ouch); you are in the luxury SUV territory with much better players like the LX470, QX56