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Replying to: kimdvm1 (Apr 22, 2007 5:43 am) 1. Fuel economy for my 07 Denali: 6.2L V-8 engine with original factory engine oil, measured cold tire pressure at 30 psi at each tire (or at 33-34 psi according to the gauge displayed when hot)--- Local with Stop-N-Go traffic, at max 40 mph with AC On ~50% of the time => 13MPG Highway at ~67 mph with AC On 100% of the time => 20.8MPG Averaged at 16.9 MPG. The average may have dropped some more in the last 2 week or so as I have been pretty heavy footed several times - enjoy the power... Yee Ha! 2. As far as the ride quality between the Yukon and Tahoe, they are about the same (the XL and Suburban are getting close to feel like trucks to me - more stiff with light load); however, the Denali has a much better ride and control than the Yukon/Tahoe. The AutoRide System sure makes a difference, and it keeps the vehicle leveled with heavy load, that is what I like about the Denali besides the 6.2L Engine. 3. I live in the Chicago area, so, having a 4WD or AWD vehicle is sometimes handy. As far as if I prefer a 4WD or AWD, it really does not matter either way, but in this case since I love the 6.2L engine and its only offered in the Denali, I will let the on-board electronics manage the AWD system. So far its been 100% sure footed in snow and it shifts very well even when I accelerate hard - smoooooth. 4. About listening to CD along with playing the DVD... I am not sure about that, as mine came already configured by my dealership so its either or. 5. Although I did not combine the on-board phone system to my Verizon cell phone account, as I recall, its like having a family plan adding an additional phone to your account at ~$10 a month... not bad. I would have joined if I am not stuck in a 2-year contract scenario. 6. My garage can also fit a XL, but, it gives too little room in the front and back to walk across to the other side of my garage, and like I said before the XL is bit close to driving a truck so I give up the XL for the standard length Denali. As for the third row flip-up seats, be careful as they can flip/come-back down when you accelerate if they are not secured. I hate to see any thing gets hurt by them seat - Can be a major Ouch! Either you decide on a Denali or a Denali XL, I recommend you to checkout the website/URL below, it offers all kinds of floor mats and a full coverage cargo liner for the entire rear section (cargo area and as a third row seat floor mat). I got one in my Denali, and it catches everything my kids can leave on it from mud, snow/water, and go figure... http://www.weathertech.com/store/mvproduct.aspx?ItemGroupId=1&VehId=272&Year=200- - - - - - 7 I hope my reply will help you a little, Best wish! FYI, I have also looked at the Audi Q7, MB GL-405, and Sequoia, Neah! Oh, and please forget about them Rovers as their overall reliability $*  %$, unless you have money and time to burn... |
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Replying to: kimdvm1 (Apr 22, 2007 5:43 am) 2) No input. My LTZ has the autoride, and I like it much better than the other non-autoride Avs I've tried. The single Yukon I test drove felt about the same as my Av though (top-of-the-line dealer demo back in February / March of last year). 3) The 4wd systems have a 4WD Auto setting. This'll let the truck decide whether / when to engage all four wheels because of slippery roads, but at the cost of a bit of fuel economy. I've had this particular 4wd system on each of the 3 GM truck / ute's I've owned so far, and it's been great with all of them (03 Trailblazer, 04 Silverado, 07 Avalanche). The real advantage in my opinion is that you can set the system to 2Hi when not needed (doubt you'll have much concern of slippin' 'n slidin' in the middle of June!). That is supposedly up to 5% better on fuel economy that when running in A4WD mode, even without ever having all four wheels kick in. This is simply because there're more drivetrain components turning in A4WD mode (ALL the time). However (big one), as pointed out above, the six speed tranny is only available in certain vehicles and with certain engines (I believe ONLY 6.2L vehicles at the moment). That could be a good equalizer, as well as providing a little bit better feeling 'power / throttle responsiveness' thanks to having more options of which gear to be in in a given situation. 3) I'd doubt there's that much difference. Other than that you have to decide to run in A4WD / 4Hi / 4Lo with the 4WD system, while the AWD is always on the job. (I'd go in A4WD and it'd be pretty much just as moot). Also, if you can't get around with the 4WD system, the AWD system is pretty much guaranteed to do no better. 4) Yep. My wife's 05 Terraza has the ability to play CD / MP3 CD up front while the kids watch their DVD movie in the rear, thanks to the DVD slot being *in* the overhead dropdown. NONE of the GM 900s have this setup (strange). Instead, DVD capable units use the same slot for ALL CD / DVD / MP3 CD media. Even the NAV system, which has two slots. The second slot on these is behind the screen, and is a dedicated Nav-DVD slot (not capable of playing CDs or DVDs). 5) OnStar combined with Verizon. Can't say. I pay for the OnStar and the phone minutes, but haven't even considered linking it to my Verizon account. I move around too often to guarantee that my cell provider will remain Verizon anyway. 6) My Avalanche fits nicely in the current guarage with maybe 3 feet excess total front and rear, even *after* I set up a ~2' deep workbench at the rear of the garage. But I think the builders went supersized on this guarage (too bad I rent and plan to move to IL eventually- this garage is my favorite part of this house). Heck, my 04 Silverado extended cab standard box (6'5") fit with inches to spare. I'm not sure what's considered a "standard" size garage, but I'd always heard that GM engineered the Suburban (Yukon XL) to be just short enough to fit in one lengthwise. If that's true, I doubt the liftgate would open with the garage door closed, and even with the door open you'd need to pull in so the gate opens through the garage opening. Final thoughts- I love my Avalanche. But if I were going mainly for people friendly family hauling SUVs (including the dog), I'd be seriously considering those Lambdas that you marked off your list. All the carrying capacity (or 9/10s anyway) of the 'burb and its twins (definitely a bit better packaged than the Tahoe), with decent towing at ~5000 pounds (where the Tahoe'd win my decision if I need MORE towing), better highway fuel economy (enough that I'd consider it significant), and in general, very up-to-date-all-around platforms. If my wife ever trades her van off, one of those will be the replacement. (The Avalanche stays- I NEED the extra towing capacity, plus the flexibility of being a standard pickup / long box or a crew cab / short box at the spur of a moment puts it over the top).
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Replying to: hardin_thicke (Apr 22, 2007 7:58 am) |
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Replying to: jerrywimer (Apr 23, 2007 4:10 am) 5. I think the cost of Onstar is way too high... the only thing I find of value is the montly email that they send. Plus I'd like to be able to use the red button in an emergency... Is that work $200 a year, I don't think so.. I emailed Onstar suggesting a more basic plan, but unless others do as well its going to stay expensive and I will never pay that price just for a monthly email and 911 services that are already on my cell phone.
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Replying to: kimdvm1 (Apr 22, 2007 5:43 am) I have a 2005 Yukon XL which is 219.3". The 2007 is a bit longer at 222.4". I think the standard garage size is 20'x20', or 240", so there ought to be room to spare. I can fit mine in the garage with space to walk around the back - not a lot, but enough. The garage door must be up to open the tailgate (I've put some foam insulation along the bottom edge of the garage door, so it doesn't scratch the paint). But, I can lift just the rear glass with the garage door closed, which is fine if you're tall enough to reach in. I am a big fan of the XL length. Our third row is in use every day, so we truly need the extra cargo space. Got three growing boys, so a week's worth of groceries pretty much fills it up! As for the dog, I really believe using a kennel/crate is much safer. Depends on how big your dog is, of course. Plus it keeps the fur and slobber from getting everywhere. Our plastic travel kennel is pretty big, we can put both dogs in there together (one beagle and one shepherd mix mutt), and it fits very easily. As for luggage, there are roof top carriers and platforms that attach to the trailer hitch. You could even buy a small utility trailer with the extra money saved, looks like about $3K more for XL versus regular Yukon. But I like being able to fit everything inside for a weekend camping trip.
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Replying to: ahightower (Apr 23, 2007 11:16 am) The dealer said he would let me take home an XL for a night to see how it fit in my garage, etc so that will be helpful. I think I'll decide to get by with the regular length, though. By the time we add our bicycles on the back of an XL we would have a lot of length to deal with parking, etc. Roof racks/trailers are pretty easy to add for the occasional family trip. |
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Replying to: kimdvm1 (Apr 22, 2007 5:43 am)
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Replying to: 4burb (Apr 24, 2007 6:28 am) With the NAV system the second disk slot is behind the NAV screen and the NAV disk is usually kept there.
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Had a strange problem over the weekend. When I got in the Yukon, I knew that there was at least half a tank of gas. But, within minutes, I am notified that I have low fuel, and the driving distance is low... Thinking to myself, thats impossible... And then, a few minutes later, it corrects itself. Shows that I have half a tank left... Anyone else see this problem on the new models?
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