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3125 messages, Last post on Nov 27, 2009 at 6:32 PM
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Having left my old Yukon for a Grand Prix, seeing these pictures makes me want a Tahoe. It will be interesting to see if the 20mpg is close to reality though. Wonder if mild hybrid systems could be added for further efficiency?
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I agree that no-fold flat seats are disappointing. I'm sure for GM to make that happen, they would have needed to incorporate an IRS, (which from what I've read), got chopped when they decided to bring the new model out sooner. Since I use my Suburban for towing, I don't know if I want the added complexity of an IRS. Yes they can improve ride and handling, but in my SUV, I don't know if I want to worry about rear alignments, and 1/2 shafts etc. I don't really miss a fold Flat seat in my Suburban. It has plenty of room behind the 3rd row and 99% of the time our 2 kids like to have a row to themselves. I like that too, since they don't fight from separate rows. Now I'm reall curious on the powertrain specs, engines, trans, rear end gear ratios etc.
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As someone who is going to be in the market for a full size SUV in the coming months, I anxiously awaited pictures of the new GM products. I figure given the benchmarks in the industry,and GM's dire need to hit a home run, this new product would be nothing less than a grand slam. Not quite The exterior looks fantastic in the pictures. As another poster stated the pictures appear to make it look smaller than it is. This is a good thing especially in the era of $3 per gal. fuel. This is a vast improvement over the old slab sided model. The interior doesn't even look like a GM product of old. From the pictures, it looks to be a very high quality cabin loaded with features designed to be a very inviting place to be. Looks like Bob Lutz had a hand in this design. The problem with this new model is the third seat. How could GM possible believe that they had the new standard of the industry with a removable third seat. The competition has had a hide away folding seat for several years. Typically when you design a new product, you try to incorporate the best features from your competitors. Is GM still so high and mighty that they think they don't have any competitors? What were they thinking when they designed the seating for this vehicle?? Just when you think the General may be getting turned around, they slide back into the GM of old.
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Replying to: mayher (Sep 21, 2005 5:35 am) |
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Replying to: dieselone (Sep 21, 2005 6:38 am) It's a shame because this is the best looking GM truck ever. Bob |
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Replying to: dieselone (Sep 21, 2005 6:38 am) I'm glad to see the 5.3 has now 325 hp. However, I was hoping for 350hp which could realy put competions out for a significant periord of time. I am not sure the 5.3 will be even stack up to the power in the 2007 Sequoia. The 6.0 and 6.2 are fantastic. Unfortuately, GM does not say the 6.0 and 6.2 will be available on Tahoe. I think the 6.2 will be only be available for Escalates and Denalis . The displyment on demand trick dated back to 20 years ago on some Caddy models. I think now it will work much better and great on open freeway but not so great on daily city driving. I like the interior which is far bettern then the current one. However, I think the exterios is much softer now and more like a mini van with the raked back windshild and lowered front facias. If I wanted aero dynamics, I would have looked for an sports car.
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Replying to: 4rider (Sep 21, 2005 11:00 am) The Nissan/Infiniti 5.6 does not have the most horsepower, both the Hemi and 6.0 Escalade are putting out around 340hp & are both slower pulling and non-pulling than the Armada/QX56. 325hp is nice from the 5.3, but if torque output isn't improved at a lower RPM and a 5speed trans isn't offered it most likely will be no where near class leading. I find the 5.3 in my '00 Suburban to be marginal when towing my 5,000lb boat, the going gets pretty slow thru the hills, HP isn't the problem, torque is. Overall, I'm looking forward to seeing the new trucks/SUV. I don't have a problem with not having an IRS, but if the powertrains aren't improved by much I'll probably look elsewhere.
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Replying to: mayher (Sep 21, 2005 5:35 am) Yeah but..... The fold flat seats is all about trade offs. The IRS coupled with fold flat seats is $$$ and that takes away from what can be spent in other areas. Then you have to consider that when they fold flat, the resulting cargo space is typically smaller than it is with the non fold flat seats when they are removed. Also, the IRS is not the best for towing, off-road use or durability. The beauty of the new Tahoe design is how you end up with two nice flat levels with the seats folded. This space will pack with suitcases and boxes quite nicely. Also, there are usually compromises in the size and seating comfort of the seats when they must fold into the floor. So a lot of trade offs here. Overall, when you consider the $$ and the functionality, I think this is an excellent design.
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Replying to: dieselone (Sep 21, 2005 11:17 am) What I really want is to have the 6.0 available as an option in LTs. So that Tahoe can fend off serious challenges from Armada and 2007 Sequoia. Like you mentioned, without having a definitely edge on the power front, the new Tahoe will not see the days it had before when there was no real challengers. |
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Replying to: 06lly (Sep 21, 2005 11:52 am) I'm not in the market for a full-size SUV, but if I were, the Tahoe's 3rd-row seat design would be a dealbreaker for me. It's a shame because I think this is the best looking GM truck ever. Bob
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