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3rd row seating by 5kidsinmycar
Dec 01, 2005 (8:47 pm)
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I've been reading all the posts on seating in the yukon/tahoe - yukon xl/suburban. When advertising seating up to 9 (we will soon have 5 kids-family of 7- which makes for interesting automotive transportation needs), I wonder why GM has not provided a shoulder harness or headrest for the middle passenger in the third row seating. Despite my Suburban having a bench seat in the 2nd and 3rd rows, I can really only safely seat six. And if I try to put a child's seat in the middle somewhere, there is little room left on either side for such things as a booster seat in either the 2nd or 3rd row.
 
I'm currently contemplating trading my 01 for an 06 YXL so I can get captain's chairs in the second row thinking that ingress and egress to the 3rd row will be easier on the kids (and the seats) but it will be tough to put three kids in the third row, where two are in boosters and one is tall enough to need a head rest. The '06 model 3rd seat middle has only a lap belt and no head rest.
 
I have been scouring the pics of the '07 version to see what the 3rd row will look like...one pick of the tahoe shows a 50-50 split with 3 sets of shoulder harness seat belts but only two head rests. What are the genius' thinking? Unless families have quintuplets, the kids are usually different sizes and will need a variety of seating options, taking into account boosters/car seats/etc.
 
Many of the posts besmirch mini vans, but I have to say, my wife's 05 sienna has three headrests and three shoulder harnesses in the 3rd row. Great for haulin' the kids around town. Problem is, can't take a trip in it 'cause no room for luggage. Hence the Suburban. And I really don't like Ford.
 
Anybody have any info on the elusive 3rd row seat? Or do I have to submit to driving an airport limo?
 
I also have often wondered why GM has not placed a personal lamp in the headliner for each passenger, similar to an airplane. What a great improvement this would be, as each passenger could chose lighting or not; as it is now, either the entire cabin is lighted in my suburban or it is dark.
 
Hope some of you GM people read these message boards....some great ideas.
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Re: 3rd row seating [5kidsinmycar] by ahightower
Dec 02, 2005 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: 5kidsinmycar (Dec 01, 2005 8:47 pm)

I hear you. They should also put LATCH anchors in every seating position, to compete with the minivans. I have a 2005 with the middle row buckets, like you said to make the third row more accessible. Only three kids so far, not a problem for me. Unless the 2007 is a HUGE improvement, I think the problem with three in the third row is lack of legroom, not just the middle seat head rest. You don't want three people that tall back there. The solution might be to skip the middle row buckets and have three in the middle, two in the back. Put one of the littlest in a car seat in the middle of the second row. Or if they are grown out of car seats, get one of the booster seats with a full back and head rest for that middle position.
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Re: 3rd row seating [5kidsinmycar] by jay_24
Dec 02, 2005 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: 5kidsinmycar (Dec 01, 2005 8:47 pm)

Agree. The 3rd row should have a shoulder belt and both second and third row middle seats should have a head rest. The lap belt shouldn't be used with any booster seats. Use it only with childseats. I think because its a 50/50 split they figure nobody will use that seating position except in a rare case because the split is uncomfy to sit on. If it was a 40/60 split the 60 side would be too heavy to remove easily.
 
putting a child seat in the third row will be a pain, since an adult probably needs to reach back there and buckle the kid in.
 
3 boosters/child seats do fit in the second row. I can see that the third row would be really tight if they fit at all.
 
for 3+ kids there aren't many good choices out there. How about a full sized van? We liked our mini-van but had to use the third row bench (98 plymouth grand voyager) and that kills storage. Most mini-vans only have 2 seats in the second row. Toyota is the exception. Get the 8 passanger and use 60% of the rear seat and fold the other 40%?? still doesn't leave much room.
 
--jay (three kids and a Tahoe)
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Re: 3rd row seating [jay_24] by ahightower
Dec 02, 2005 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: jay_24 (Dec 02, 2005 11:43 am)

I understand the new versions will have shoulder belts in all positions, if not head rests. So booster seats will be fine.
 
We have three in car seats (ages 3, 4, and 5 - small for their age). We put two in the very back, one in the middle. We got the 2nd row buckets so they could walk through to the back without having to flip and fold seats around. The oldest can buckle himself all up. The middle child is learning. We do have to step up onto the running board and reach back to help them buckle and unbuckle, but it is no more trouble than it was in the minivan we owned previously.
 
By the way, without going too far off topic, our last vehicle was a 2004 Nissan Quest. There was a LOT more room in the 2nd and 3rd row, and there was really plenty of storage space (for our needs). Not as long as the Suburban, but very deep and tall, due to the big well that the third row folds flat into. Ended up trading because we got a great deal on our 2005 Yukon XL, and have always wanted one. Also, while there is less room for passengers, there is much more room up front for me. I have always had to put up with my right knee leaning up against a center console, until now. It would be even better with the front bench, but that is not available with leather and the 2nd row buckets.
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Re: 3rd row seating [ahightower] by 5kidsinmycar
Dec 02, 2005 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: ahightower (Dec 02, 2005 7:12 pm)

I did look on the web today concerning gm vans - the savana is the current large van with seating for 8 or 15. looking at the interior, the bench seating still has the same issues with center seat lap belt and no head rest.
 
I'm really not ready to succum to purchasing a van for my self just yet. Gotta try to figure a way to get all the seating in.
 
I may go with a bench version of the second row and try to fit as you suggest, with two seat and an open seat for our oldest and largest child. Besides, he can help fetch bottles and snacks.
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Speaking of minivans by pierceman
Dec 02, 2005 (10:45 pm)
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Wouldn't it be interesting to see a new Suburban with sliding second row doors aka Minvans
 
OK< sorry, Its late and I've been drinking Rich
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Re: Speaking of minivans [pierceman] by ahightower
Dec 03, 2005 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: pierceman (Dec 02, 2005 10:45 pm)

Blasphemy!...
 
We are MUCH too cool for sliding doors here!
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5kids / Savana by corvette
Dec 11, 2005 (7:45 pm)
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I thought at least one of the center seats had a shoulder belt, but there is still the issue of head restraints. The Savana is designed to be either a cargo van or church or hotel bus or a conversion van, and without going the conversion van route, there are not that many creature comforts.
 
Other grumblings:
 
Can someone please explain the reasoning behind displacement on demand? I know how it's supposed to work, but a 2006 4WD Yukon without DOD has EPA ratings of 15/19, but a presumably lighter 2006 4WD Envoy XL *with* DOD has EPA ratings of 15/20. I would expect a larger difference. Am I wrong about the 2006 Yukon not having DOD?
 
* No standard side airbags. So much for GM's much-lauded "safety for everyone."
* Looks like they're still using that unpainted wart-looking thing as the OnStar/XM antenna.
 
I haven't been able to find a complete feature and option list, so I can only speculate that features like four auto up/down windows and laser-cut keys are not included.
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rebate by abshop
Dec 12, 2005 (11:03 am)
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How long will we have to wait before we see nice rebates on the 07?
 
"I haven't been able to find a complete feature and option list, so I can only speculate that features like four auto up/down windows and laser-cut keys are not included"
 
link title
 
Select shop by model, then select chev-tahoe-go, then select 2007
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Fuel Milage Looks Good by 06lly
Dec 13, 2005 (9:14 am)
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Just read where the EPA Highway mileage for 4WD Tahoe is 21 MPG!! That is basically amazing compared to the 17 MPG for Ford Expedition and Toyota Sequoia. Long live the pushrod engine.

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