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2007 and newer Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Yukon

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Well said by callmedrfill
Oct 23, 2005 (12:14 pm)
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This reiterates my point earlier that this new vehicle is now competitive, and it is much ado about not much.
 
    Judging from such recent introductions as the Malibu, Impala, the Colorado, and now the Tahoe, something "truly special" maybe beyond their collective abilities.
 
    GM is not Toyota, their public image is rock-bottom, and a decent car is not nearly good enough right now.
 
    They need to put as much effort and money into their vehicle's designs as they do their incentives.
 
    It's like watching a football team use a "Prevent" defense. Trying not to lose hastens your demise considerably.
 
    GM doesn't have the luxury of producing another mediocre new model.
 
    DrFill
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Re: Once again GM settles for evolution, not revolution [quikkash] by ahightower
Oct 23, 2005 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: quikkash (Oct 23, 2005 7:55 am)

"Back in 1997 when Ford introduced it's new line of F-150's, both the styling and choice of engines was revolutionary for a full-size domestic pickup. Result: Ford continues to dominate this market."
 
The combined sales of the Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra are a bit higher than the Ford F-series. Data is from a competing website, through May of 2005:
 
1. Ford F-Series pickup — 335,269
2. Chevy Silverado C/K pickup — 274,869
14. GMC Sierra pickup — 87,210
 
GM's advantage is 26,810 units. Maybe GM ought to do away with the GMC division and take over bragging rights for best seller.
 
Plus, you might say the Avalanche and even Escalade EXT are bought to be used as "trucks", and share pretty much the same mechanicals. GM is clearly preferred by consumers.
 
I don't have the numbers, but I'm pretty certain the GM full-size SUVS far outsell the Fords as well. Chalk one up for old school engineering.
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Re: Once again GM settles for evolution, not revolution [ahightower] by navigator89
Oct 23, 2005 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: ahightower (Oct 23, 2005 12:28 pm)

You don't need numbers. An Edmunds story said they own 65% of the full size truck market. That's basically because they have so many variants, the Suburban, Escalade, Tahoe, Yukon, Sierra, Silverado, Avalanche.
 
Ford only has the Expedition and Navigator. Excursion never sold well and has been dropped.
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Re: Once again GM settles for evolution, not revolution [ahightower] by alston28
Oct 24, 2005 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: ahightower (Oct 23, 2005 12:28 pm)

What is the website where you can get sales numbers for different models? Thanks.
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You can use autochannel by callmedrfill
Oct 24, 2005 (4:51 pm)
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You used to be able to go to autosite, but it has changed a lot, so I don't know if they do that anymore.
 
   DrFill
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Just about there... by brjohnson
Oct 26, 2005 (9:50 am)
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As have many of you, I have been pouring over the photos of the new Yukon/Denali. As many have so correctly put it, this is a catch up, not a blockbuster. As stupid as some would call it, the interior matters as it is where we spend our time. A wood steering wheel is nice, but not if it is done as an insert that presents "bumps" in the roundness of the wheel. Solid is the way to go here GMC. The Infinity has the same style inserts in the QX56 like it appears the new Denali will have. If you have not felt it, it is very annoying.
 
On the fold flat rear seats, I continue to be surprised that GMC was not able to come up with a design that worked here. Any of us that want to load larger items needing support from underneath are still left having to remove them. I am wondering if the setup will be any different on the new XL versions.
 
Also, with the captains chairs in the second row, where is the option for a removable console for those? Nissan and Infinity offer this and Lincoln has one as well although I am not sure if it is removable. Why would this not make perfect sense for them? I even thought it may make sense for a platform that would accomodate an additional seat in that location interchangeable with a console. Is that impossible? That would fit in the Professional Grade Category.
 
Someone commented on the bumpers not looking as "trucky" without any chrome. Not only do I agree, but for many of us that will use these vehicles to tow with and for other utilitarian functions, having plastic covered and painted bumpers is really not what we would choose for durability either.
 
Although I am probably going to wait on our next purchase of a larger towing capable SUV until I can see and touch the new Yukons, I am dissapointed that they could not get closer to the mark than this. I am really struggling to figure out if it will be worth waiting to see.
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Will they arrive In January? by jeff658
Oct 26, 2005 (4:42 pm)
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I stop by a Chevy dealer today and he said they ordered there allotment of 5 2007's today and if i gave him a deposit he could guarantee me delivery in January...
does this sound correct?
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6 speed tranny on the way? by jay_24
Oct 27, 2005 (5:01 am)
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link title
 
"The Hydra-Matic 6L80 debuts in the 2006 Chevrolet Corvette, Cadillac STS-V and Cadillac XLR-V. It will be featured in 25 different 2007 model-year vehicles, including several of GM’s new full-size sport utility vehicles."
 
So the new Tahoe might start with a 4 speed but be updated later? or maybe its optional?
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IMO by stanwict
Oct 27, 2005 (1:14 pm)
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The new Tahoe look is growing on me. It needs wheel flairs and better looking wheels. I don't like the plastic covered bumpers because no matter how hard you try when loading stuff in and out they will eventually get scratched or dinged. I need a full size SUV because I tow and one mistake hooking up and the plastic bumper cover will be scared for life.
 
I wish GM would make all seating options available on all models (LS, LT, Z71). I want an LS with heated cloth seats and 2nd row buckets. GM's leather looks awful after a year and I've always been disappointed they only offer tan and light gray leather in the full size SUVs (but you can get dark gray leather in pickups - what gives?).
 
Has anyone seen pricing on these things yet? Can ytou imagin what a loaded Tahoe with new features such as power folding seats, heated 2nd row seats and a backup camera is going to list for? The cost of these SUVs with basic features is ridiculous. This year Tahoe tip the scale of $50,000. Who pays $50,000 for a Chevy everyday driver? That’s almost as far out there as paying $60,000 for a VW!
 
PS: To all of you wanting 3rd row fold flat seats: BUY A MINI VAN!
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Re: IMO [stanwict] by 4rider
Oct 28, 2005 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: stanwict (Oct 27, 2005 1:14 pm)

"I don't like the plastic covered bumpers because no matter how hard you try when loading stuff in and out they will eventually get scratched or dinged. I need a full size SUV because I tow and one mistake hooking up and the plastic bumper cover will be scared for life."
 
Amen brother. NO plastic bumper on Tahoes or any truck please. Rugness and durability are of essence on trucks and truck based SUVs. The invention of platic bumpers is a dream for body shops and a nightmare for car owners.
 
"PS: To all of you wanting 3rd row fold flat seats: BUY A MINI VAN! "
 
Right on again. The 3rd seat on a Tahoe or my Suburban is not easy to acess and certainly not for middle aged adults. I still dont understand why a 3rd seat is needed on Tahoes while Suburbans are always more suitable for haulig more than 5 people.
 
A fold flat 3rd seat is basically a good idea. However, it wont be a good idea if this requires changing into Independent rear suspension, A independent suspension is by nature much more complex and much less durable. Unless it is Hummer H1 like which is great but not pratical for a regular SUV. The CV joints and the boots are much more suspectible to damages. And most of, the ride is not always better simply because of having independent suspension.

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