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Re: 'Due at signing' question [ferky] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 21, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: ferky (Mar 21, 2008 1:48 pm)

Rolled into the monthly payments...
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Re: 24 or 36 month lease in general? [Car_man] by g4gibb
Mar 22, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Mar 20, 2008 3:41 am)

Is this a good lease deal in CT?
Xc90 3.2 AWD 7 passenger
nav
premium package
climate pkg
versatility pkg
bi-xenon lights
silver
sticker: 47, 942
sale price 37,450
36 months/15k
$574 per month with tax
$1850 due at signing (includes 1st month pmt)
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xc90 lease in CT...any idea if this is a good deal by g4gibb
Mar 22, 2008 (7:48 pm)
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Is this a good lease deal in CT?
Xc90 3.2 AWD 7 passenger
nav
premium package
climate pkg
versatility pkg
bi-xenon lights
silver
sticker: 47, 942
sale price 37,450
36 months/15k
$574 per month includes tax
$1850 due at signing (includes 1st month pmt)
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Is the 24 month lease a no-brainer? Or do I have no brain? by bomb27
Mar 22, 2008 (8:56 pm)
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This is the car I'm looking at:
2008 XC90 3.2L AWD
7 Passenger
Climate Pkg (bum warmers)
Premium Pkg(oooo leather)
Versatility Pkg (3rd row for short people)
metallic paint
NO DVD, NO NAV, NO BIXENON
 
$249 a month, $4989 due at signing
4 Yr Warrantee, or 50,000 miles (standard)
 
The residual is 63%, which equals $18500.
So that means after 2 year lease, I will have paid $10965 (not including tax), and if I add the residual to buy the car outright, it's $29465...
 
Here are other calcs on this SUV:
The Cap Cost is $29408
The MSRP is $44725
The Invoice is $41908
 
The math:
What I pay after 2 years - CAP Cost = 29465 - 29408 =... $57???
 
Does this mean I am not paying any interest? I believe the bank underwriting this is JP Morgan, or at least that is what I think I saw on the screen.
 
So my first question is, is the 24 month deal that is going on a crazy deal?
Some things that factored into my deal, as some of you may say that my numbers are not what match the advertisements.
 
There are currently two offers in the NY Tri state area:
1) Garmin GPS for $750
2) $500 Trade in incentive
I was able to get credit for both as I did not want the Garmin. This may be in the tri state only.
 
So... if you factor that I got the extra $1250 to make my monthly payments $249 instead of $299, am I basically leasing a car at no interest?
 
Also, am I doing something horrible by putting so much down?
Since I'm doing a trade in, I just figured I would use that money to reduce my monthly.. not that I have a problem holding onto money, but still, I like the idea of just paying $250 a month...
 
Anyway, this was a LONG post, but I would love some feedback, as I will decide on this by Monday. Is there something wrong with this deal that I don't get? I am willing to pay down so much because I'm doing a trade in.
 
thanks, and this forum is awesome.
 
(One comment I've learned from the forum, that there are risks in paying so much in down payment if you get into an accident that totals the car. Is this true?)
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Re: Is the 24 month lease a no-brainer? Or do I have no brain? [bomb27] by ferky
Mar 24, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: bomb27 (Mar 22, 2008 8:56 pm)

Hopefully someone with a lot more insight than me will weigh in, but your numbers don't make a lot of sense:
 
You're saying that you were quoted a lease sale price of $29,400 on a car with an MSRP of $46,700???? $12,500 UNDER invoice? Even adding back in the $5,000 due at signing, your price is still more than $7,000 under invoice. I just don't see how that's possible. Plus, residual is based on MSRP, so a 63% residual (10.5k miles a year?) would put you at just over $28,000, only $1,400 under the sale price?? Consider me confused and extremely doubtful. I think you are missing something here. I'm about to post the lease deal that I just made. Not saying that it's the best, but it's waaaay off from yours. One of us is going to be wrong; if it's me, then I guess I made a crappy deal. See my post in prices paid and buying experience.
 
Also, I understand how easy it can be to put lots of money down when you are getting the cash anyway from the trade-in, but you would actually be better off putting that cash in the bank, having it earn interest, and pay a higher monthly. If the car is stolen or in a bad accident, that money is gone -- even if it's 3 days after leaving the dealer. . . .
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Re: Is the 24 month lease a no-brainer? Or do I have no brain? [ferky] by bomb27
Mar 24, 2008 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: ferky (Mar 24, 2008 12:53 pm)

Sorry, let me clarify. $5000 due at signing, $250 a month for 24 month is $11,000. The the cost to walk away from the lease and take the car is 63% * $45,200 = 28476, or roughly $28500.
 
ADD these two numbers together, and yes, it's $39,500 for a $45,200 car.
But 45,200 is the MSRP--the invoice on this car is more like 41908. Which means I'm getting $2408 off the invoice, and $5700 off the MSRP.
 
Does that seem more in line? This is the deal I'm getting for sure.
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Re: Is the 24 month lease a no-brainer? Or do I have no brain? [bomb27] by bomb27
Mar 24, 2008 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: bomb27 (Mar 24, 2008 6:38 pm)

Granted this is why I am pursuing this lease deal--you have to ask for the $299 promotion offered in the tri-state area and ask for the Garmin promotion AND the trade in promotion to be factored into the lease. That totals $1250 OFF the 2 year lease, which by my calculations, makes this lease deal a 0% interest lease deal.
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Re: Is the 24 month lease a no-brainer? Or do I have no brain? [bomb27] by ferky
Mar 24, 2008 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: bomb27 (Mar 24, 2008 6:40 pm)

Well it doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense to me, but using your numbers and assuming that the full $5,000 due at signing is a cap cost reduction, then I agree with your figure of roughly $250/mo. before interest and tax. However, I don't know of any banks providing 0% lease financing -- there is no incentive for them to do so. You have either stumbled on a terrific deal (except for the $5,000 down - is that your figure or the dealer's? Could you still get 0% money factor with much less down?) or someone has made a mistake.
 
Good luck and keep us informed. If anyone else has additional light to shed on this deal, I've love to hear it.
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Re: Is the 24 month lease a no-brainer? Or do I have no brain? [ferky] by bomb27
Mar 24, 2008 (8:23 pm)
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Replying to: ferky (Mar 24, 2008 6:57 pm)

I believe I have the flexibilty to structure the deal with less down and more in payments, and I plan to do so--perhaps even trying to make it 2500 down and 354 a month.
Again, I think I stumbled upon a combo that is really unique and YMMV, your mile may vary...
Find a dealership doing the tri state area $299 for a 7 pass AWD 3.2L, with $4989 down, who is ALSO doing both the GPS deal AND the $500 trade in deal. And then get them to make all of these subtract against the lease.
 
I'll tell you guys what comes out of tomorrows transaction and post all the final details.
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final offer (I added a DVD system and BLISS) by bomb27
Mar 25, 2008 (11:30 am)
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MSRP
$47695
 
Residual of 63%
$30048
 
2 year lease with 10500 miles
$400 * 24 months + $2800 down = 12400 (there is also 1840 in tax, title, dock, 1st payment which I will not include)
 
Lease cost(12400) + Residual(30048) = 42448
 
Savings off or MSRP
MSRP (47695) - (Lease + Residual) = $5247 off MSRP
Invoice (44018) - (Lease + Residual) = $1570 off Invoice
 
After taxes, 1438.95 (removed the $400 1st payment) I pay $140 off invoice.
 
Not the most impressive price for a straight up purchase, but for a 2 year lease, it's not bad I think.
 
bo

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