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#334 of 735 Re: CA T5 S60 lease [m.l]
by Car_man HOST
Mar 25, 2007 (7:28 am)
Hi m.l. The money factor that you mentioned is different than Volvo Finance's current buy rate for this car. I suspect that your lease is being run through an independent bank rather than through Volvo Finance. Volvo is currently providing a $6,000 cash incentive on leases of the 2007 S60 T5 through independent banks plus $2,000 lease cash, plus $1,000 owner loyalty or conquest cash for a total of $9,000 in cash incentives on this car. Plus the car that you described probably has a spread of around $2,400 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. This gives you a total of $11,400 or so to play with in your negotiations. You were quoted a discount of $10,608 on this car. You might be able to shave another couple hundred dollars off of this car's price if you work at it, but this price isn't bad.
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#335 of 735 Re: lease s60 2.5 [lease1]
by Car_man HOST
Mar 25, 2007 (7:30 am)
Hello lease1. You never mentioned the selling price or MSRP of the car that you are interested in leasing. These are important numbers for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing this car's selling price in relation to its MSRP you don't know how much of a discount you are getting on it. The second reason is that one needs the selling price and MSRP, including the destination charge, of a vehicle to calculate its lease payment. I would be more than happy to give you my opinion on this deal if you let me know what these numbers are.
The problem that I personally have with demo vehicles is that dealers never seem to be willing to provide enough of a discount for me to justify purchasing what essentially is a low mileage used vehicle over an otherwise identical brand new one. Of course, there are exceptions to this, but this generally seems to be the case with demos.
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#336 of 735 Re: L.A. S60R lease deal [hts666]
by Car_man HOST
Mar 25, 2007 (7:42 am)
Greetings hts666. The car that you described, a well equipped 2007 Volvo S60 R has a spread of around $2,800 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. Given the size of the discount that you were quoted, I suspect that you are leasing this car through an independent bank rather than through Volvo Finance. Volvo is currently providing a whopping $7,000 cash incentive for leases of the '07 S60 R through independent banks. Plus there is $2,000 lease cash and $1,000 owner loyalty or conquest cash on this car right now. Combine these three cash incentives with the spread between this car's MSRP and invoice price and you have a total of around $12,800 to play with. You are being given a discount of $7,100. If this lease is not through Volvo Finance, you should be able to negotiate a lower selling price than this. If your lease is being run through Volvo Finance, this is a great price.
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#337 of 735 S60 lease in NY, opinions?
by mikewilson
Mar 25, 2007 (10:03 am)
Hello,
I have a pending deal on a 2007 S60, with the Premium and Climate packages. Terms are:
39 months, 15,000 miles per year, $2800 total cash down (includes registration fee, taxes, first month's payment, etc.), and $342 per month.
The bank is Wells Fargo, and the cost of the vehicle (cap cost?) is $24,300... from an original sticker of 35,800. I am scratching my head at how they got the cap cap cost so low. Never owned a Volvo before, hope to be pleased.
Can anyone give me an opinion on whether or not this is a good deal, it seems like it to me.
Thanks,
Mike
#338 of 735 Leased today in Central NJ
by steveholly
Mar 28, 2007 (2:37 pm)
Good afternoon!
Just got back from Volvo of Princeton and made arrangements to lease a 2007 S60 2.5T.
Mike - I had a pretty similar experience price wise...
I'm still amazed at the discounts on Volvos - went in with interest in a S40, but the price difference was something like $15/month - WELL worth the upgrade from the S40 to S60.
I'll pick up the car on Monday, April 2nd.
My details:
36 month lease through US Bank for 18k/year
New 2007 S60 2.5T
Titanium Grey w/ Graphite interior
Premium, Climate, Satellite Radio Prep
MSRP - $35,820
Cap cost - 24,106 (!!!)
Residual - 41% (due to high miles)
Money factor - 0.00207 (or ~4.9%)
Down payment/money out of pocket - $1,648 (include acq fee, 1st month, NJ add-on fees (not state tax) etc.)
Works out to $408/month
I think that's terrific!
Steve
#340 of 735 Need Assistance on S60 lease!
by amoreno
Apr 12, 2007 (6:42 pm)
Hey guys. I appreciate reading all of the posts in this excellent edmunds.com forum. Car_Man (or other friends), can you tell me if this deal makes sense to you guys?
I called a volvo dealership in texas trying to get the residual and money factor numbers on a 36K/36Month lease on a basic volvo s60. Here's what they told me:
Residual-48%
Money factor-.01 (did they mean .001?) I asked and they told me ".01 is what our computer says." if i'm correct, that's a whopping 24% interest rate. am i safe assumimg they meant .001? or do you guys have the official money factor rate for volvo financing.
they're offering me a basic s60 for $26,080. the sales manager told me that the monthly payment would be $364. i told him i don't want to put any money down and he said it was fine. the total costs would be: $365 first payment, $108 fees, $375 security deposit, and then a $80 fee (for something i do not know). did he forget taxes? as i am in texas.
to summarize: can i get a better cap price? and what is the money factor and residual?
your help would be much appreciated!
andy
#341 of 735 upgrade lease from s40 2.4i to s60 2.5t
by mellow2
Apr 14, 2007 (10:54 pm)
We are currently leasing a s40 2.4i 2004, original lease package was 48 months, 15k mi. Currently at 32 months with 36k miles. We want to trade up to a s60 2.5t, 2007, with premium and sports package, sticker price is $38k, price on lease offered is $30k. Was offered $15k for the trade in value of car (s40). Dealer offered lease package $479/mo. (through us bank) with tax, 48 mos., 12k, $1k down (first payment, tax, tags included). Reading through the forum it doesn't seem to be a good deal. Any advice? (our credit is perfect).
#342 of 735 Re: upgrade lease from s40 2.4i to s60 2.5t [mellow2]
by qbrozen
Apr 15, 2007 (6:16 pm)
reading through the forum doesn't help you much because you have so much negative equity that you are rolling into the new car. Getting out of a lease early on a steeply depreciating car is never cheap.
There are typically 2 choices when trading in the car, either all of the remaining payments are rolled in to the next car OR the difference between trade-in value and current buyout. If you were offered $15k on the S40 ... I'm taking a wild guess and saying you are probably rolling ~$4k negative equity??? On a 4-year lease, that is probably bumping your payment up by at least $80. Probably more like $90. So if it wasn't for that negative, the deal would be under $400/mo.
Still doesn't seem great for a 4-year lease, though. Personally, I'm really opposed to leasing past 3 years.
By the way, you've driven the current car 36k miles in 32 months. So it seems a 12k/yr lease is not enough for you.
#343 of 735 Re: S60 lease in NY, opinions? [mikewilson]
by Car_man HOST
Apr 27, 2007 (3:30 am)
Hello Mike. Volvo is currently providing enormous cash incentives on leases of the '07 S60 through independent banks like Wells Fargo. The exact amount of cash that is available through this program ranges from $6,000 to $8,000, depending upon the trim level of the vehicle that you want. In addition to the cash for leases through independent banks, Volvo is providing $2,000 cash on leases of this car through any source. That puts the total cash on leases of the S60 at $8,000 to $10,000! That's how the dealer you are working with was able to give you such a large discount on this car. I don't know exactly which S60 you are getting, but the selling price that you were quoted looks very attractive to me.
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