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Re: Cold Komfort [azguy2] by bluebird23
Apr 24, 2008 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: azguy2 (Apr 22, 2008 11:47 pm)

I just leased a Passat Wagon, so I can kind of help you compare. Here is what your deal seems to be:
MSRP: 28814
Cap Cost: 24370
Residual : 50%
Money Factor: .00023
Effective APR: 0.55%
Term: 36
Residual: 14407
Depreciation: 9963
Monthly Depreciation: 276.75
Monthly Finance Fee: 8.92
Total Monthly Payment: 285.67
 
Cap Cost: 24370
 
Invoice on that car is 26,953.
With the $2k and $1k back, and add in the $575 acquisition fee, you are at around $158 below invoice.
 
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To compare, I got a Passat Lux Wagon with $500 down
MSRP: 33214
Cap Cost: 29959.97
Residual : 40%
Money Factor: .00087
Effective APR: 2.09%
Term: 48
Residual: 13285.6
Depreciation: 16674.37
Monthly Depreciation: 347.38
Monthly Finance Fee: 37.62
Total Monthly Payment: 385.01
 
My invoice was $30,996. - $1k (no trade in or loyalty ) + $575 acquisition comes out to about $611 under invoice. I also have the doc fee rolled into the cap cost (actually they just reduced the cost by the doc fee so I didn't really pay it). So I think you should be able to reduce the sale price by $500 and get rid of the doc fee.
 Who knows what other dealer incentives are on these. I'm in AZ, which it looks like you are too. These are some amazing lease deals.
 
So if you reduced your down payment by the doc fee, and reduced the sale price $500 you would have:
MSRP: 28814
Cap Cost: 23870
Residual : 50%
Money Factor: .00023
Effective APR: 0.55%
Term: 36
Residual: 14407
Depreciation: 9463
Monthly Depreciation: 262.86
Monthly Finance Fee: 8.80
Total Monthly Payment: 271.66
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Re: April Lease Questions [azguy2] by jb1105
Apr 24, 2008 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: azguy2 (Apr 23, 2008 3:31 pm)

OK, so I talked to the dealer and he built that loyalty bonus into my price....
I still have remaining payments on my current VW (3 to be exact) so there's about $770 of it right there. The rest I guess just got me where I need to be. Haven't physically looked at papers yet.
Any "thingies" to watch out for??!
1. Acquisition fees?
2. Early termination fees?
3. Disposition fees?
I'd love your guidance on this!
 
THanks!!
#604 of 698
Re: April Lease Questions [jb1105] by lepia
Apr 24, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: jb1105 (Apr 24, 2008 9:36 am)

I am interested on the answer as well. My lease is due on June 1, so I was woundering if I should expect the sale rep pull one on me because my lease is not due yet.
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annoying.. by optionshiftk
Apr 24, 2008 (10:54 am)
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Just got back from my local dealership and it was a frustrating experience.
 
I went in looking at a Passat Turbo Wagon - only options on it are heated seats and floormats. My employer has a "deal" with VW that allows me to get the car at invoice without the hassle.
 
Sticker on the car is $27.5k invoice was about $25k - have them run some lease numbers and they come back with $440! I mention the Sign and Drive promo - which they seem to be unaware of. They "re-run" their numbers and are still off..
 
I don't qualify for any rebates (not a returning VW customer - and do not have a trade in that qualifies either.)
 
I'd love to get the car - but I'd prefer to spend about $250-$300 a month (36 mos - 12k miles)
 
Can anyone assist with the numbers on this?
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Re: April Lease Questions [lepia] by jb1105
Apr 24, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: lepia (Apr 24, 2008 9:55 am)

Hi -
I imagine you might have the same thing happen, I hate to say, but at least the 2K was figured in somehow - or at least part of it!
Ho hum!!
#607 of 698
Passat Lux rate I got by lepia
Apr 24, 2008 (8:47 pm)
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hey everyone,
 
I tell you, going to a dealership to negotiate a lease is the a nightmare. I just came back from the dealer I leased from 4 years ago.
 
He is offering the following:
391 a month
0 down, taxes rolled in monthly payment
36 months
15,000 miles a year.
 
he also offered the Komfort at the following rate:
333 a month
tax up front
36 months
15,000 miles.
 
Anyone knows a dealer that is willing to do 340-345 a month 0 down. 15k a year, 36 months, for a Passat Lux in the NYC area?
 
how can this be? someone posted he got $340.00 a month.
 
Sale people are the worst to deal with.
 
Any suggestions? I want to get my new Passat by next Wednesday.
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Re: April Lease Questions [tntmyth] by lepia
Apr 24, 2008 (8:59 pm)
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Replying to: tntmyth (Apr 20, 2008 5:39 pm)

Do you mind sharing the dealer you went to?
Is it in the NYC area?
 
thanks in advance,
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Re: Need Help with a Lease [simbany1] by lepia
Apr 24, 2008 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: simbany1 (Apr 22, 2008 3:00 pm)

Simbany1,
fyi,
 
I went there today and they offered me the following:
Passat Lux 08
0 down
391 a month tax included
15,000 miles.
36 months.
 
supposely, this deal includes the 2,500 incentive since I already have a 04 passat lease.
 
I will continue shopping around,
 
hope this help.
Sucks!
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Re: passat komfort lease [kmhawk] by lepia
Apr 24, 2008 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: kmhawk (Apr 16, 2008 6:23 pm)

kmhawk,
 
Can you share the dealer you went to?
is it in the NYC area?
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Re: Passat Lux rate I got [lepia] by bluebird23
Apr 24, 2008 (10:27 pm)
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Replying to: lepia (Apr 24, 2008 8:47 pm)

Lepia,
 
You need to include the price and or options to get a better idea. Here is an example, based on my experiences above on what they are willing to do.
Passat Sedan Lux with Mats and Ipod MSRP:$31,268 Invoice:$29,203
I got $611 below invoice, not including incentives. So I would shoot for a selling price of $29,203 - $1k lease cash, -$2k loyalty - $611 dealer lowering the price = $25,592.
 
I entered that into LeaseCalculator.mobi (made for cell phones, but works in any browser), and got this:
MSRP: 31268
Cap Cost: 26167 (includes $575 acquisition fee)
Residual : 48%
Money Factor: .0003
Effective APR: 0.72%
Term: 36
Residual: 15008.64
Depreciation: 11158.36
Monthly Depreciation: 309.95
Monthly Finance Fee: 12.35
Total Monthly Payment: 322.31
 
That does not include plates or dealer doc fees. You should be able to negotiate out the doc fees, or have them include that in the selling price. If you know what plates and registration cost, you can add that into the fee field of the lease calculator, or you can pay it out of pocket.
 
If you can access the internet on your phone, that calculator comes in VERY handy at the dealer when they are trying to pull fast ones. Good luck.

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