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42 messages,  Last post on Sep 30, 2007 at 2:55 PM

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Re: VW Beetle Convertible - Pkg 1 [bstewedmunds] by Car_man HOST
Aug 08, 2007 (1:28 am)
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Replying to: bstewedmunds (Jul 23, 2007 6:29 am)

Here is the information that you're looking for, bstewedmunds. Volkswagen Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a non-Triple While 2007 Beetle Convertible with 15,000 miles per year are .00061 and 62%, respectively. This car's 12,000 mile per year residual value would be 2% higher and its 10,000 mile per year residual would be 3% higher.
 
I would be happy to estimate what the monthly payment should be for the exact car that you are interested in, but in order for me to do so I need its MSRP, in addition to the selling price that you mentioned. Let me know what the MSRP is and I'll crunch some numbers for you.
 
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Re: residual at 57% on 15k??? Sound right? [superman2424] by Car_man HOST
Aug 08, 2007 (1:35 am)
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Replying to: superman2424 (Jul 24, 2007 9:42 am)

Hi superman2424. There actually isn't much profit margin for dealers on Beetle Convertibles. There is a difference of approximately $1,300 between the MSRP and invoice price of the car that you are interested in. Fortunately, Volkswagen is currently providing a $750 cash incentive on leases of non-Triple White Beetles through VW Credit. This gives you a total of around $2,000 to play with. I personally would want a larger discount than $800. Try comparison shopping with a few dealers. I am sure that you will find one that is anxious to unload their remaining 2007 models now that the '08s have begun to arrive.
 
The money factor that you were quoted is also too high. Volkswagen Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a non-Triple White Beetle Convertible with 15,000 miles per year are .00061 and 62%, respectively. Make sure that this is the lease program that the dealer you are working with uses to calculate your car's monthly payment.
 
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Re: VW Beetle Convertible - Pkg 1 [Car_man] by bstewedmunds
Aug 08, 2007 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Aug 08, 2007 1:28 am)

Thank you Car_Man for your response. Here is the information.
 
VW Beetle non-triple white.
 
MSRP - 25,400
Cap Cost - 23,900
10,000 or 12,000 miles
Sales Tax 6.5%
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lease "trade-in" by eargrrl
Aug 21, 2007 (1:11 pm)
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Not sure where to post this question so I'll try here.
 
We are looking at leasing a new beetle but are in the last few months of a lease on a toyota Rav4. The VW dealer says they can "pay off" the Rav4 lease when we lease a VW. How does it really work when you return a leased vehicle to a dealer of a different company and lease a new car from them? I feel like we should ride out the Toyota lease, turn it in to Toyota and start from scratch with VW. Any thoughts? Oh, the VW dealer quoted a trad-in value on the RAV of $9,000-$12,000.
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MF and Residual Value New Beetle Convertible and Hard Top by drenga
Aug 26, 2007 (4:50 pm)
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I am deciding between beginning either a 36 or 48 month lease on a 2007 Beetle Convertible (internet price 22041) or hard top (internet price17104) from Heuberger Motors in Colorado Springs and am curious as to the money factor and residual value. I am not sure if I can ask here, but I am also looking at a jetta 2.5 (internet price 19583) and would really appreciate figures on that as well. Thank you!
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Re: VW Beetle Convertible - Auto, Pkg 1, Rubber Mats [Car_man] by apudiyap
Sep 12, 2007 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Aug 08, 2007 1:28 am)

Hi Car_Man,
 
  I am looking to lease a VW New Beetle Convertible for my wife from VW Sunnyvale, CA.
 
Beetle convertible auto w/ package 1 and rubber mats
MSRP of $25,499 including destination
Invoice of $24,195
Purchase Price of $23,162 (He's saying the $750 VW lease cash does not apply for Sept. and that he's pricing it $1033 below invoice. Well, whatever )
Cap cost of $23737 (Including $575 lease acquisition fee)
Cap cost reduction $1737
 
Total Financed $22,000
 
The money factor is .00027 (I have a credit score of abt 790) with a 61% residual based on 10k miles/yr 36 months.
 
So with a residual of $15,554.39, I am looking at 189/month plus tax.
 
Now here are the questions:
 
1) Is the $750 VW lease incentive available for Sept 2007?
2) Is the lease acquisition fee mandatory or do dealers usually waive it?
3) What are the residual and money factor on this car for Sept 2007? the money factor they are giving me looks way below what you quoted for Aug, but the residual is a full 4% lower than your Aug figures.
4) Do dealers go below the factory specified money factor?
5) Do dealers dip the residual below the factory specification and do they have a reason to do that, since its only gonna force me to buyout the car at lease end?
 
Since the purchase price looks below invoice (even after factoring the $750) and very low finance charges, I think I am getting a good deal, since the low residual can be offset by opting to buyout and reselling at lease end. But if dealers usually waive the lease acquisition fee, the equation might be different.
 
Please share your thoughts. And BTW, no other dealer in the area came even close.
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Re: VW Beetle Convertible - Auto, Pkg 1, Rubber Mats [apudiyap] by cluelessinca
Sep 15, 2007 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: apudiyap (Sep 12, 2007 2:56 pm)

I could really use some help. I was just at the dealer looking at the new beetle conv. to see the $219 lease special, which of course, no cars are left at that price. I would lease a 2007 conv. but the price the dealer is quoting me is $100 over what the man you replied to earlier is saying he would pay. I would buy the car after the lease ends. I would take the 6 speed triptronic, pkg 1, harvest moon beige, cd changer. They are telling me that the sale price is $25,400, with $2000 down, tax here is .0825 in LA county, 36 month lease, at 12,000 miles per year i suppose - not sure since i am going to buy it off the lease - i do a lot of miles - their money factor is .000270, the lease price is $282.94 PLUS TAX !!! The resid. value is $15240 (is that negotiable ?) I'm a single mom who is awful at math and could use some help with this...don't want a dealer to take me for an extra $100 a month but not sure how to get the price down. Thanks for any help you can offer. Susi
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Re: VW Beetle Convertible - Pkg 1 [bstewedmunds] by Car_man HOST
Sep 20, 2007 (2:31 am)
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Replying to: bstewedmunds (Aug 08, 2007 4:57 pm)

You're very welcome, bstewedmunds. Let's work up a lease payment on this car and see what we come up with. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2007 Volkswagen Beetle Convertible that has an MSRP of $25,400 and a selling price of $23,900 through VW Credit right now for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $258. The payment for an otherwise identical lease with only 10,000 miles per year would be $251.
 
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Re: lease "trade-in" [eargrrl] by Car_man HOST
Sep 20, 2007 (2:34 am)
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Replying to: eargrrl (Aug 21, 2007 1:11 pm)

Hi eargrrl. More likely than not you will be better off just waiting until the scheduled end of your current lease to get a new vehicle. To get you out of your RAV lease now the dealer that you are working with will have to either make your last couple of payments for you or purchase your truck from the bank that you are leasing through. There is a very good chance that it will cost more to purchase your leased RAV right now than it is worth on the open market. If so, then this dealer would lose money by getting you out of your lease this way as well. Either way, if it costs the dealer anything to get you out of your lease...which is likely the case...it is going to hamper your ability to get the best possible deal on your new vehicle.
 
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Re: MF and Residual Value New Beetle Convertible and Hard Top [drenga] by Car_man HOST
Sep 20, 2007 (2:37 am)
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Replying to: drenga (Aug 26, 2007 4:50 pm)

Greetings drenga. Volkswagen Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for 36 month lease of a 2007 VW Beetle Convertible (non-Triple White) with 15,000 miles per year are .00043 and 58%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 48 month lease are .00108 and 50%. As you can see, the 36 month program is much more attractive right now.
 
VW Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 Jetta 2.5 with 15,000 miles per year are .00113 and 51%. Its 48 month numbers are .00166 and 43%.
 
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