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Rav4 Residual and money factor by aquinto
Sep 19, 2007 (5:31 pm)
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I live just outside of Philadelphia in Glenside PA - I am looking at a AWD 4 Cyl Rav4 limited (2007) - the current money factor (September) is .00205 and the residual on this model for 36 months 12,000 miles is 57%. Just trying to get a dealers best price - invoice isn't a hard and fast number and it certainly doesn't match the "invoice" price on Edmunds (Edmunds is always lower). Will report back when I get a deal.
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Re: Rav4 Residual and money factor [aquinto] by Car_man HOST
Sep 20, 2007 (2:12 am)
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Replying to: aquinto (Sep 19, 2007 5:31 pm)

Thanks for sharing the details of your negotiations, aquinto. I look forward to hearing how everything turns out.
 
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Re: Rav4 Residual and money factor [Car_man] by aquinto
Sep 26, 2007 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Sep 20, 2007 2:12 am)

I finally leased a RAV 4 last night, after a couple of months of research, discussions with dealers and walking out of dealerships. The vast majority of communication was done via email. There were discussions with at least 9 dealers and it is interesting how they operate. Ultimately I struck a deal with DEL Toyota in Thornton PA about an hours from where I live in Glenside PA. The whole process with DEL took less than 24 hours and the best part was approximately only 35 MINUTES in the dealership signing papers!!! DEL was the last dealer I contacted and I provided them with a monthly lease payment calculation and what I wanted to pay for up front (I didn't want any fees rolled into the lease - that way I could verify lease numbers to my calculation). I used the lease calculator on Edmunds - which is accurate despite what some dealers might tell you - the problem is the dealers throw in fees to try and bump up the monthly lease payment. Anyway...
 
Leased a 2007 RAV 4 Pacific Blue 4 Cylinder Limited 4WD - only options daytime running lights and floor mats.
 
36 month lease with Toyota Financial Services, 12,000 miles a year (apparently 15,000 miles a year is a 55% residual)
 
MSRP $25,529, COST CAP (purchase price) $23,747.40, RESIDUAL $14,516.95 (57%), MONEY FACTOR .00205 (4.92%), PA lease tax 9% (on the monthly payment).
 
Monthly payment including tax is $364.98.
 
Up front fees 1st months payment of $364.98, acquisition fee $550 (no one would budge on this and some wanted to include it in the monthly lease payment), title $22.50, registration $36, license $10, Doc fee $55, tire fee $5, GAP insurance $200 (negotiated down from $400 - Toyota does not automatically include!), the remaining $73 dollars or so is tax on some of the above items - total out of pocket is $1,316
 
This was the best deal I could work out and still be married and not drive myself crazy anymore.
 
TIPS:
 
1. Educate yourself on how a lease works - it is easy for dealers to move numbers around - most of them want you to say a monthly payment they will surprise surprise match it!
 
2. If you have any intention of getting a good deal - SHOP AROUND.
 
3. Dealers are more willing to negotiate if the car is on their lot rather than having to trade (example - I can walk to a Toyota dealer from my house(did not have the vehicle we wanted) but ended up buying an hour away (did have the vehicle we wanted).
 
4. Don't be afraid to walk out of a dealer - I did and they still get in touch with you afterwards.
 
5. I wasn't being unrealistic in what I wanted to pay - it became clear early on that the no one was coming close to the "invoice" price on Edmunds. I also wasn't looking to cut into dealer hold back.
 
6. I not only wanted a price as low as I could get but I also wanted to know how the dealer got to his numbers.
 
7. Overall, dealers do not appreciate an educated customer - DEL Toyota did and that is why they earned my business
 
Let me know if there are any questions.
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'07 RAV4 Lease by verdi942
Oct 04, 2007 (5:30 pm)
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Here in NY, TFS is advertising a "$2199 down/$249/mo" lease for a base FWD 4cyl. I found one as AWD and was quoted $3500 down and $389/mo! After 2 hours' haggling, I was offered a $2K down and $311/mo 36 mo. lease with 15Kmi/yr. Cheesily, TFS wanted $6/mo for gap insurance! Should I take it? I must add that this month, there seems to be very little incentive support for any vehicle like the RAV4.
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October Money Factor and Residuals for 2008 Illinois by friendlyleaser
Oct 09, 2007 (8:33 am)
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I am curious what the money factor and residual % for a 2008 Rav4 in Chicagoland Area, Illinois should be?
 
Looking at a 36 month 15,000 mile a year lease of a 2008 Rav4 4x4 base silver with 17 in Wheels, 50 state emissions, roof rails, daytime running lights and a third row seat.
 
Appreciate your help.
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Dealer's lease offer/ conditions by boholano
Oct 11, 2007 (11:47 pm)
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RAV4 2008 V6 Base priced at 2730
  
 4 year lease with a 12000 miles per year and no money down. There offer was 530 for 48 months. Is this reasonable? I live in North wales PA. Thank you very much.
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Re: Dealer's lease offer/ conditions [boholano] by friendlyleaser
Oct 12, 2007 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: boholano (Oct 11, 2007 11:47 pm)

When you say no money down are you not including the first lease payment and security deposit?
 
I think this deal is not very good. When you goto Toyota's website and build a 2008 Rav4 V6 in North Wales PA, you can not get the MSRP up to $27,300. But when you estimate payments on a lease on their website with a rav4 v6 at 26,900 you get a payment of around $383 (although you need to add in tax, but that would only be $30-$40.) Since your goal should be under msrp and $530 seems like over msrp that is not a good deal at all. (as long as your credit is good)
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Re: Rav4 Residual and money factor [aquinto] by Car_man HOST
Oct 26, 2007 (2:30 am)
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Replying to: aquinto (Sep 26, 2007 10:52 am)

Congratulations on getting your new RAV, aquinto. Thanks for taking the time to post such a detailed message about your lease. Make sure to stop by the new Dealer Ratings & Reviews section of Edmunds.com to share your thoughts on your recent dealer experience with others. Enjoy your new ride .
 
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Re: '07 RAV4 Lease [verdi942] by Car_man HOST
Oct 26, 2007 (2:55 am)
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Replying to: verdi942 (Oct 04, 2007 5:30 pm)

Hi verdi942. The best way to get a good deal on the new RAV4 that you want is to negotiate as low a selling price as possible on the exact model that you want and then have the dealer that gives you that price calculate your monthly payment using its buy rate lease money factor.
 
I am not intimately familiar with what the market is like for the RAV4 in New York at the moment, but you are in an area that has a good level of competition. If I was in the market for this vehicle in your neck of the woods, I personally would shoot for a selling price of around $500 over dealer invoice or so. Make sure to stop by the "Toyota RAV4 Prices Paid and Buying Experience" discussion to see how much other community members have paid for similar vehicles lately.
 
As I mentioned earlier, once you arrive at a selling price that you are comfortable with have the dealer that you are working with calculate your monthly payment using Toyota Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor. I don't believe that Toyota is currently providing any lease support on the 2008 RAV in your area. As a result, if you were to lease one through TFS right now, you would have to use its standard lease money factor. This number varies slightly by region, but it should probably be around .00285 for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier right now. Toyota is providing lease support on the '07 RAV in its the New York region. Its special buy rate lease money factor for the '07 RAV4 in your area is .00204 for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.
 
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Re: October Money Factor and Residuals for 2008 Illinois [friendlyleaser] by Car_man HOST
Oct 26, 2007 (3:01 am)
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Replying to: friendlyleaser (Oct 09, 2007 8:33 am)

Here's the information that you're looking for, friendlyleaser. I don't believe that Toyota is currently providing lease support on the 2008 RAV4 in your area. If that is the case and you were to lease one through Toyota Financial Services, you would have to use its standard lease money factor. TFS' current buy rate standard lease money factor may vary slightly by region, but it should probably be around .00285 or so for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.
 
The residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 RAV4 4WD with 15,000 miles per year is 57%. The problem with this resid is that TFS only publishes residual values for base vehicles without any options. It places restrictions upon what options can be residualized. The calculation of actual dollar residual values for vehicles that are leased through TFS is so complicated that Toyota provides its dealers with a list of the actual residual values for every unit that they have in stock rather than just having them use the percentages to calculate residual values like most other banks do.
 
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