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Toyota Highlander Lease Questions

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Re: Toyota Highlander: Lease Questions [Car_man] by sjmom23
Mar 28, 2009 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Aug 31, 2005 4:24 pm)

Good Deal???
2009 Base Highlander (v6 fwd)
cold weather package
blu logic
extra value package
daytime running lights
dealer installed dvd player
 
36 month lease with $1500 down $452 month (including tax).
residual value $13,874. Negotiated price $27,956
Appreciate any thoughts you might have! Thanks!
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Residuals: Highlander vs RAV4 by iamknott
Apr 01, 2009 (7:00 pm)
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Just to throw more fuel on the fire..........
 
A week ago, I asked a dealer in Central Ohio for lease quotes on both the Highlander and the RAV4, 3 yrs, zero down, 12k miles. The payments were about what everybody here has experienced. What shocked me were the residuals:
Highlander, MSRP $37,600., residual $17,515.
RAV4, MSRP $30,255., residual $17,815.
I guess that tells you something about the leasing company's expectations for larger SUVs.
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Re: Residuals: Highlander vs RAV4 [iamknott] by ocautoseeker
Apr 02, 2009 (2:51 am)
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Replying to: iamknott (Apr 01, 2009 7:00 pm)

It's not just on trucks and SUV's, it's on cars as well. Toyota has for the most part been responsible and better yet, "realistic" when setting their residual values. They did their homework and didn't get greedy by oversubsidizing their leases like (for example) Nissan in the early 90's, which nearly bankrupted them 'cause they were getting killed on all their returns. My good friend up in the bay area at SFO Toyota and I had this discussion, and if you've ever wondered why you can sometimes lease a BMW less than a Toyota, here's a prime example.
 
The one nice thing about a realistic residual is that if per chance you fall in love with your car and want to buy it out at lease-end, chances are that on a Toyota, the residual will be pretty close to what the market's fetching.
 
Like Car_Man has said numerous times, Toyota sets a residual for each individual vehicle and not just one percentage straight across the line. People often think that by adding equipment like NAV and rear dvd systems etc. will increase the resid, when in fact, it usually lowers it.
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Re: March Numbers on Limited [orangeman99] by Car_man HOST
Apr 02, 2009 (3:08 am)
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Replying to: orangeman99 (Mar 28, 2009 7:18 am)

Hi orangeman99. Toyota is not currently running any loyalty programs, so there really isn't any advantage to being a returning lessee.
 
Toyota Financial Services' new New York region buy rate lease money factor for the 2009 Highlander is a very attractive .00028 for consumers who qualify for its top aka "Tier 1+" credit tier. This is the lowest money factor that the dealer is allowed to charge you.
 
Highlanders are popular vehicles, but dealer grosses on them are low...particularly in the retail environment that we find ourselves in today. If I was in the market for an '09 Highlander right now, I personally would shoot for a selling price of slightly over dealer invoice. You should be able to get pricing feedback from other consumers who are in the market for similar vehicles by visiting the "Toyota Highlander Prices Paid and Buying Experience" discussion.
 
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Re: Residuals: Highlander vs RAV4 [ocautoseeker] by iamknott
Apr 02, 2009 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (Apr 02, 2009 2:51 am)

I guess that explains my experience when I leased my 07 Avalon. I wanted the top-of-the-line Limited model, but it's residual was lower than the next-lowest model (XLS), which made the payment significantly higher. However, the lessor was a local credit union, not Toyota Finance. Maybe they went to the same leasing school.
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Re: Residuals: Highlander vs RAV4 [iamknott] by ocautoseeker
Apr 02, 2009 (11:29 pm)
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Replying to: iamknott (Apr 02, 2009 9:09 am)

Residuals will always vary from bank-to-bank, but most often, you'll find the best terms through the captive bank, and in terms of Toyota, that would be TFS. Case-n-point: Banks are in the business of buying and selling vehicles, so it behooves Wells Fargo, Chase et al to set a realistic residual, otherwise they're gonna' get killed upon return if the market value is way off. This was happening for years until banks finally realized that despite the interest they were making on your lease, they were giving it all back when trying to unload the vehicle to a buyer.
 
Extra bells and whistles are always nice, but when it comes time for a dealer to try and pick that vehicle up from an auction (where it usually goes after your lease), many times, those "amenities" don't add squat to the value of the car, and the dealers/wholesalers looking to buy know that. Most people that buy used want a clean car that has a solid engine and tranny, and has convenient features like a/c power windows and locks etc, but the rear seat entertainment systems, nav, and other "overpriced" features when new just don't hold up well in the resale market - thus the dip in residual. Especially when you can by a Garmin or Tom Tom for $150 and move it between vehicles, as opposed to the $2000 factory nav.
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Oklahoma Highlander leasing by mdxlessee
Apr 04, 2009 (11:26 am)
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Car_man: I am looking to lease a Highlander Limited with bells and whistles. My final price quoted here was $35.8K but for the 12K 36 month lease, the money factor used was very high, 0.0295, and the residual was very low at 42%, resulting in a lease payment of $717 with just first month's payment down. From your March post, the money factor and residual appear to have been are .00099 and 47%, which are very good. What can I do to negotiate better lease terms? Thanks very much for your help.
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Car Man: Could use your advice by rollingwoods
Apr 05, 2009 (8:05 am)
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Hi Car Man and others). Really appreciate the help you give on this forum. We're older folk in Northern Calif. We're looking at purchasing a Highlander Limited w/no navi or DVD. Negotiated good offer of $350 below invoice. The vehicle is perfect for us in terms of options, color, etc.--in that sense our dream vehicle! We have excellent credit and and could buy outright.
BUT: we've never owned an SUV, and the ride in the rear seat(s) seems a lot harsher than we're used to in our 2000 Sienna XLE. Making me nervous about plunking down $$36000 (out the door price) when we're not sure how satisfied we'll be with it. SO: does a short lease make any sense? We would probably buy it off of lease (or during lease if that's possible?) if we like the vehicle as much as we hope. Perhaps it would make more financial sense to buy it and then sell in a year or so if for some reason we didn't want to keep it? Thanks for the help. We have to make a decision within 48 hours--it's hard to find a Limited like this without tons of expensive bells and whistles we don't need.
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Re: Car Man: Could use your advice [rollingwoods] by wvgasguy
Apr 10, 2009 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: rollingwoods (Apr 05, 2009 8:05 am)

So, how often do you ride in the second row? The highlander is one of the best for comfort that I've found in mid-size SUV's with plenty of leg room, foot room and reclining seat backs. Then again I never ride back there (but it was a priority)
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Re: Car Man: Could use your advice [wvgasguy] by rollingwoods
Apr 10, 2009 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Apr 10, 2009 5:30 pm)

Well, we bit the bullet. We found a "base Limited"--about the only one in Northern Calif--that had only EVP7 and a few minor other options on it. Since the things we needed like power seats and backup camera were standard, we didn't want high-priced add-ons like navi, DVD etc. Was able to get it for $350 under invoice. Most importantly, my wife loves it! And wvgasguy, you're right--how often will I be in the back seats!

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