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#239 of 346
camry for cheap by apprehensive
Nov 15, 2007 (9:25 pm)
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Dear anyone,
  
Interested in getting into a new 08 camry 36mo 12k mi/yr, (IN APRIL!) I turn in my previous camry lease then. I thought I got a good deal on my last one but after reading your posts I have no idea! I got the base model with black mirrors (gasp). Got it for $2K down (all inclusive w/1st payment) then 35 more payments of 175/mo. 12K miles/ yr, GAP included. The bus. manager cleared with the gen manager to get me into what they said is a loss leader (in the paper ad to get you in the door to buy up). The bus. manager then turned the screen and said they were actually losing some $ on the deal. He said he rarely ever sees camrys go for under $200, of course, this one has the black mirrors! I haven't seen any of these ads hit the papers yet with the sick cheap lease pricing (maybe cause there are 07's still around). Is there any hope for me to get a similar payment?
  
I want the lowest no frills model, even if it's a manual tran. Seatbelts would be nice.
  
I'm reading to negotiate the price then have the dealer work numbers, how do I know they aren't changing mf or adding any other bs? I'd like to go 0 down this time (except I guess the first payment/acq/sec (in other words no cap cost reduc?)
  My wife and I still have tier 1 credit.
Thanks very much, also I live in Merrimack NH (southern, close to Boston area)
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Re: Leasing vs. Toyota Touch Preferred Option [vehicula] by vehicula
Nov 16, 2007 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: vehicula (Nov 14, 2007 10:59 am)

AT LAST I have a definite answer.
 
A call to Toyota Financial Services cleared up the mystery: The Preferred Option is no longer offered in most states, including my state of Massachusetts. With the Preferred Option the customer is obligated to take the vehicle at the end of the financing period; with a lease the customer has the choice to keep the vehicle or to turn it in and 'walk away'.
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Re: Leasing vs. Toyota Touch Preferred Option [vehicula] by talmy1
Nov 16, 2007 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: vehicula (Nov 16, 2007 9:29 am)

Now I'm mystified! You first said "TTPO is Toyota Financial Services' name for a purchase with a balloon note." It's not a lease, but a purchase, so of course the customer is obligated to take the vehicle at the end of the financing period -- he owns it! OTOH, you say for a lease " the customer has the choice to keep the vehicle or to turn it in and 'walk away'" which isn't quite true. The customer has no equity in the vehicle and is given the option to buy (not keep) the vehicle. Now it may look the same because the customer with TTPO must make a large payment at the end, like the lessee would do to keep the car, but it's fundamentally completely different.
Of course this begs the original question about being "good for the customer." Balloon payment loans are almost never good for the customer. That most states don't have TTPO available might mean that they were pressured not to offer it for ethical concerns.
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Re: Leasing vs. Toyota Touch Preferred Option [talmy1] by vehicula
Nov 16, 2007 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: talmy1 (Nov 16, 2007 9:44 am)

 Whomever I spoke with at TFS was wrong.
 
From the Toyota brochure:
 
"At the end of your contract’s original term, you can elect to satisfy your final payment in one of three ways... 3. Return your vehicle to your Toyota dealer. Notify TFS in writing at least 30 days prior to your final payment due date."
 
Called TFS back and said (politely) WTF? No one could explain the practical difference between the Preferred Option and a lease. So I'm no better off than before.
 
But I did get this information: The Preferred Option is only offered in a limited number of states: AK, LA, NM, NJ, NY, RI, MD, CT and possibly one or two others that I can't remember offhand. I'll probably never get my answer but the question is moot, since I live in MA.
 
I'm guessing that it has something to do with variations in state law.
 
I'm not going to argue with you, talmy. If it was available in MA, the Preferred Option would have been less expensive than a standard lease, although not by much.
#243 of 346
2008 Camry Hybrid by uncle_eazy
Nov 25, 2007 (10:28 am)
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Hi all,
 
I'm not new to leasing (I've leased through Ford and BMW), but I feel the Toyota dealer is trying to take advantage of me. Initially, a '08 Camry Hybrid with the upgrade package was presented to me with a sale price of $25,998. With $2000 down, they said my payments were going to be $443/month. That about blew me backwards out of my chair. I mean, my lease payment on my '06 BMW 325 is only $350! And, of course, this price was only good on the cars they had in stock.
 
They offered me another car that had leather and heated seats and a few other things for around $27,500. With around $3000 down, my payments would be around $390. This still seems incredibly ridiculous. Not a single lease calculator I've been to comes anywhere near this price.
 
Also, they charge a $199 "Doc" fee and wanted a whopping $800 to purchase and install the Sirius brain for the car.
 
Thanks in advance,
Uncle Eazy
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XLE Lease details by arm_jan
Dec 03, 2007 (4:20 pm)
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I helped my dad lease an XLE over the weekend. Here are the details. I did not have enough time to do extensive research so the deal could have been better, but here it is. The car was leased from a Sacramento, CA dealer.
Base XLE with floor mats 36 months 12k
 
Base MSRP: $25660
Floor mats and some other things $199
Actual MSRP: $25859
Cap Cost: $24000
Edmunds Invoice: $22910 without floor mats
They claimed they add advertising fees and their invoice is arround $23500 ($400 over edmunds)
Residual: 15250 (59 %)
MF: .00123
Bank fee: $575
Monthly: $308 + $22 tax = 330.00
 
Drive off was first month + license and doc fees, I think arround $575.
 
I could probably have done better negotiating the selling price. Any comments are welcome.
#245 of 346
Re: lease purchase [davidlni] by nourdmrolnmt1
Dec 11, 2007 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: davidlni (Dec 26, 2005 4:04 pm)

Okay, i need some rates and residuals on an 08 Hybrid.
 
im not to worried about prices, but i would like to know some rates and residuals.
 
zip: 44023
mileage: 18k
length: 36/39 mnth
 
money down will probably be F&F.
 
(in response to the post above me, yes some dealers do have advertising fees that arent on edmunds, in GM speak, its 65a and 237 iirc)
 
thanks in advance
#246 of 346
Went to LONGO TOYOTA TODAY by nacho2
Dec 11, 2007 (8:46 pm)
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Hello,
I went to lLongo Toyota today and dealt with the fleet mgr, this is the deal that I was offered, please let me know what you think.
2008 Toyota Camry LE MSRP $21,93, $13067 is the residual(60%), with a cap cost of $19734, he say' selling price is $700 back of invoice, he is using a selling price of $19,184. Now with $494 down for 36months, 12k per year, I have a payment that comes out to $248.76 including tax. He also says that gap insurance has to be bought separate. for something like $699. My accord has gap included, do I have to buy it, or can I check with my Allstate Insurance. Also the LE does not have an alarm system. I told him I heard of people getting $19,000 OTD, and even $20.000 OTD from Longo he said no, perhaps it was last month maybe but no that is incorrect. I went next door to Honda because my lease ends tomorrow and I told the lady who works there, she used to work at a Toyota before and said you could get the LE for $200 including tax. Do you think I can get the payment including tax for $220 a month. Thanks in advance for the help, greatly appreciated.
#247 of 346
Re: Went to LONGO TOYOTA TODAY [nacho2] by nacho2
Dec 11, 2007 (8:48 pm)
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Replying to: nacho2 (Dec 11, 2007 8:46 pm)

Also Money Factor used is .00136 which is the special on the camry le for Tier 1 credit..
#248 of 346
Review this purchase: by nourdmrolnmt1
Dec 12, 2007 (2:15 pm)
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2008 Toyota Camry Hybrid
$500 over invoice
buy rate of .00099 (tier 1 lease)
36 month
18k miles
 
$448 per month without nav, should be about $465 a month with nav.
first payment due. Tax IN

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