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#32 of 249 Subaru 2.5i Wagon by richw4 Aug 30, 2006 (12:19 pm)
I'm considering leasing a Subaru 2.5i Wagon, automatic. (MSRP was approx. $27,000). Salesman in Riverhead, Long Island quoted me $376 per month, 48 months, $0 down, 12K miles per year. Could you please let me know if this is a good price, and if not, what should I be trying to negotiate down to?    Thanks. Replies to this message: melissag (Sep 05, 2006 6:10 am)
#33 of 249 Re: Subaru 2.5i Wagon [richw4] by melissag Sep 05, 2006 (6:10 am)
Replying to: richw4 (Aug 30, 2006 12:19 pm) Rich--I ended up leasing through Manchester Subaru (New Hampshire) for $299 per month; 48 months; 15K per year; no trade in or $$ down, and the cash to close was one payment plus a relatively nominal (less than 200) charge. Good luck.
#34 of 249 Re: 2.5i Wagon [richw4] by Car_man HOST Sep 28, 2006 (3:59 am)
Replying to: richw4 (Aug 30, 2006 12:15 pm) Hi richw4. You never mentioned the selling price of the car that you are interested in leasing. This is an important number for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing the price of the car that you want to lease you don't know how good a price you are getting it for. The second reason is that one needs the selling price of a vehicle that they want to lease is that it is necessary to calculate its lease payment. I would be more than happy to give you my opinion of this deal if you let me know what this vehicle's selling price is.   Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum
#35 of 249 Re: Subaru Outback: Lease Questions [Car_man] by needtoknow1 Sep 29, 2006 (10:09 am)
Replying to: Car_man (Aug 31, 2005 4:21 pm) I just completed a deal on a demo Outback 3.0R. Love the car; hated the experience. Interested in knowing how I did. This is in Canadian dollars.   Demo had 12500kms. (MSRP in Canada for the car is $38995)My deal had a final cost of $36 000 (no other fees). 2.8% financing (non-negotiable) over 4 years with a $14 530 residual ($1007 off normal residual due to kms on car). Total tax rate here is 14%. My monthly payments are $577 all-in. Also got them to install an automatic car starter at no charge. Thanks.
#36 of 249 2.5i Outback Limited Wagon Lease by drewcar Oct 26, 2006 (2:12 pm)
Hello, Mr. Car Man. Thank you for being you.   A few important questions I was hoping you might be able to help me with when you have a moment:   1. Can you tell me the lease money factor and residual value percentage for a 2007 Subaru 2.5i Outback Limited Wagon?   2. I am using lease calculators to learn about this whole craziness....and I am a bit confused by the residual value computation. Is the residual value based on the Cap Cost or the Adjusted Cap Cost? It seems to me that, regardless of what one pays for a car, it is worth the same at the end of, say, 4 years and with 40,000 miles on it, no? Therefore, it would seem that the residual value is based on the Cap Cost NOT the adjusted cap. Please confirm or clarify if you would.   3. Finally, it seems that depreciation values set by leasing companies are rather high. If I return a leased car after four years with 40K miles, how am I to believe that the car is, say, 48% depreciated (52% residual value) when the private sale value after four years is more like a 65% residual value? Is this a profit angle or a cover-our-butts strategy to protect the leasing companies from value gaps?   Thanks for the help.   And again, thanks for being there. Replies to this message: Car_man (Nov 21, 2006 8:39 am) bpac02864 (Dec 19, 2006 11:48 am) Car_man (Jan 25, 2007 2:52 am)
#37 of 249 Lease rates by dino001 Oct 27, 2006 (7:43 pm)
Hi Carman:   Do you have info on current mfr. (by Chase) lease MF and residuals on '07 Legacy GT Ltd/Outback XT Ltd wagons for 24/36 months and 15000 miles/yr? Is Spec B sedan any different? The region is Southeast (FL), if it matters. Feel free to volunteer any special/sunsidized rate they might have with other term lengths. I appreciate your help in advance. Replies to this message: Car_man (Nov 21, 2006 8:45 am)
#38 of 249 Lease Terms for 2.5 i Basic by rcurriejr Nov 01, 2006 (12:17 am)
Hi,   I'd like to know what you'd consider fair lease terms for an Outback 2.5i Basic 4EAT-S with a sale price of $22,000. I'll be trading in a vehicle with $2,000 of equity in it, and looking for a lease of 3 years/45,000 miles. Thanks. Replies to this message: Car_man (Nov 21, 2006 8:46 am)
#39 of 249 Re: 2.5i Outback Limited Wagon Lease [drewcar] by Car_man HOST Nov 21, 2006 (8:39 am)
Replying to: drewcar (Oct 26, 2006 2:12 pm) You're welcome, drewcar, . Subaru's lease program for this vehicle varies depending upon how long you lease it for and its mileage allowance. For now I will assume that you are interested in a 48 month lease with 10,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. Subaru's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 48 month lease of a 2007 Outback 2.5i Limited Wagon with 10,000 miles per year are .00270 and 50%, respectively.   Vehicles' residual values are always based upon a percentage of their full MSRPs, including the destination charge and any options that can be residualized. So you are right, regardless of how much one pays for their vehicle, it is only worth a specific amount at the end of their lease. Vehicles' residual values are based upon a realistic assessment of what banks believe vehicles will be worth after a specific period of time. Many banks actually artificially inflate vehicles' residual values, making them unrealistically high so that they can provide consumers with attractive lease payments. Manufacturers like BMW do this sort of thing all the time. Most banks don't set vehicles' residuals too low though. There is a great article on how to calculate lease payments here at Edmunds.com. You definitely should check it out: Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.   Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum Replies to this message: bpac02864 (Dec 19, 2006 11:48 am) Car_man (Jan 25, 2007 2:52 am)
#40 of 249 Re: Lease rates [dino001] by Car_man HOST Nov 21, 2006 (8:45 am)
Replying to: dino001 (Oct 27, 2006 7:43 pm) Hi dino001. Subaru Auto Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2007 Subaru Legacy GT Limited Wagon with 15,000 miles per year are .00270 and 65%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00240 and 53%. Subaru Auto Finance's buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2007 Subaru Outback XT Limited Wagon with 15,000 miles per year are .00270 and 63%. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00240 and 54%. The Spec B's lease program is different, its residual values are not nearly as attractive. Its 24 month, 15k numbers are .00270 / 57%. Its 36 month, 15k numbers are .00240 / 47%.   Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum
#41 of 249 Re: Lease Terms for 2.5 i Basic [rcurriejr] by Car_man HOST Nov 21, 2006 (8:46 am)
Replying to: rcurriejr (Nov 01, 2006 12:17 am) Greetings rcurriejr. I would be happy to estimate what this vehicle's lease payment would be if you were to lease it through Subaru's captive finance company right now. In order for me to do so I need you to provide me with its full MSRP. Let me know and I'll crunch some numbers for you.   Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum

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