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#240 of 249 '10 Outback Ltd #s by cdnj1 Oct 21, 2009 (3:30 am)
Hi folks,   I'm in discussions with a dealership in NJ on a 36 month 15k/yr lease of a '10 Outback Ltd.   Extras include moonroof, autodim/homelink mirror, media hub, wheel arch moldings, and wheel locks. Total MSRP is $31090.   With only first payment at inception, I've been offered $495.24/mo.   Cap Cost: 28966 Tags and Fees: 489 MF: .00190 Residual: 53% Tax (7%) in NJ: 1012.79   These #s don't compute for me; something seems off. Given Tax and Tags (as cited) divided over 36 months = 41.72, that would mean (at least by subtracting the provided monthly payment and the tax/tags) that depreciation+finance = 453.52.   When I use the numbers provided and compute depreciation (cap-resid/term) and finance fee (cap+resid/mf) I get 346.90 and 86.34 respectively for a sum total of 433.24.....some $20 higher per month applying the math from the top down.   anyone have any thoughts on this? Does chase subaru finance work some other voodoo into their calculation?   Another question which I've never been able to find an answer to - how is car lease tax computed in nj? at 7% i cannot for the life of me determine the number being used as the tax basis (at least not as a function of msrp, depreication, residual, cap cost).   Looking to take delivery this week. Any guidance or thoughts most appreciated.   Thank you, Chris Replies to this message: stoopy (Oct 21, 2009 8:23 pm) cdnj1 (Oct 22, 2009 5:35 am) stoopy (Oct 25, 2009 8:20 am) and 2 more... jayrider (Oct 25, 2009 12:47 pm)
#241 of 249 Re: '10 Outback Ltd #s [cdnj1] by stoopy Oct 21, 2009 (8:23 pm)
Replying to: cdnj1 (Oct 21, 2009 3:30 am) It works out to $495.47. A few cents different than your quote. Hardly anything to be concerned about. I would be more concerned about the fact that you are leasing a $31,000 vehicle for almost $500 a month. You could buy it for less than that. Replies to this message: cdnj1 (Oct 22, 2009 5:35 am) stoopy (Oct 25, 2009 8:20 am) cdnj1 (Oct 26, 2009 8:18 am) ateixeira (Oct 26, 2009 11:53 am) jayrider (Oct 25, 2009 12:47 pm)
#242 of 249 Re: '10 Outback Ltd #s [stoopy] by cdnj1 Oct 22, 2009 (5:35 am)
Replying to: stoopy (Oct 21, 2009 8:23 pm) Thanks Stoopy. I'd considered the buy option, but not sure how I'd do that for less...60 months at 3.9 puts me at about 580/mo. Replies to this message: stoopy (Oct 25, 2009 8:20 am) cdnj1 (Oct 26, 2009 8:18 am) ateixeira (Oct 26, 2009 11:53 am)
#243 of 249 Re: '10 Outback Ltd #s [cdnj1] by stoopy Oct 25, 2009 (8:20 am)
Replying to: cdnj1 (Oct 22, 2009 5:35 am) I was referrring to a 4.9% for 72 month loan. Works out to $485 a month. I wouldn't buy this vehicle for that much and wouldn't lease it for that much either. I would either look at a different model or wait until the incentives come out. By January there will be at least $1000 lease cash on the Outback. All of my local dealers are starting to get flooded with Outbacks. One has 86. Replies to this message: cdnj1 (Oct 26, 2009 8:18 am) ateixeira (Oct 26, 2009 11:53 am)
#244 of 249 Re: '10 Outback Ltd #s [stoopy] by jayrider Oct 25, 2009 (12:47 pm)
Replying to: stoopy (Oct 21, 2009 8:23 pm) Or with some research lease a much more expensive car for the same $'s. Leasing makes the most sense on a higher ticket vehicle with a healthy discount and good lease numbers. The outbacks are hot so discounts are unexciting. Lower priced cars are equally unattractive when you can do better purchasing.
#245 of 249 Re: '10 Outback Ltd #s [stoopy] by cdnj1 Oct 26, 2009 (8:18 am)
Replying to: stoopy (Oct 25, 2009 8:20 am) thx again stoopy. i'm not sure the 72 month option is the "cheaper" option with the higher interest rate and extra year of payments. i'm certainly interested in controlling the monthly payments, but its really the total cost that's most important, including the cost of the money.
#246 of 249 Re: '10 Outback Ltd #s [stoopy] by ateixeira Oct 26, 2009 (11:53 am)
Replying to: stoopy (Oct 25, 2009 8:20 am) Forester has better residuals, better rates on the few 09s that are left.   But he's right, these are selling well so there are few incentives to make a bargain lease.
#247 of 249 3.6R lease negotiations by socalstan1 Nov 16, 2009 (1:31 pm)
Hi all, newcomer here but finding everyone's advice extremely helpful. I'm negotiating a 36 month/12k lease of a 2010 OB 3.6R with sunroof, all weather package, premium audio with bluetooth, auto dimming mirror and cargo net. Offered:   Invoice price of $27,118 Residual: 54% money factor: .00170 $1399 drive off and monthly of $389.55 + tax = $427.53   Almost $80 better than I was quoted 6 weeks ago, so feel like dealers are starting to give a bit. Would greatly appreciate thoughts on this deal, as well as others' experiences. Trying to negotiate down to $500 under invoice, but I'm liking the deal.
#248 of 249 2009 Outback 3.0 with 6000 miles by peiboy Nov 24, 2009 (12:57 pm)
I am about to purchase a 2009 OB 3.0 with Nav for $29,500 with bank financing. This is Subaru executive car that has not been titled. Is this price ok? Time is of the essence here!   John Replies to this message: ateixeira (Nov 25, 2009 8:55 am)
#249 of 249 Re: 2009 Outback 3.0 with 6000 miles [peiboy] by ateixeira Nov 25, 2009 (8:55 am)
Replying to: peiboy (Nov 24, 2009 12:57 pm) How many miles?   I'd aim for 10% below the invoice cost of a new one for a program car. Unless it has less than 1000 miles or something.

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