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#165 of 538 Re: 2009 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE $201/mo 15Kmi 270 drive off [johnuser17]
by chuck68516
Apr 18, 2009 (6:00 pm)
I had a quote for around $19,000 on a Special Edition lease back in January. Having said that I don't believe you got the deal you claim.
1. An Outback Special Edition doesn't MSRP for $27,754. It would literally have to have every accessory known to Subaru and still would be $1,500 short of that price.
2. Your residual of $14,820 is 53.39%, not 54% but either way the actual residual value of an SE 36 month, 15K per year is 53.0%.
3. How did you get out of paying your first monthly payment? Normally you have to put down at least $500 in order to do that.
4. Using the numbers you posted your payment would be around $221 not $201.
What dealer did you go through? Salesman?
#166 of 538 Re: 2009 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE $201/mo 15Kmi 270 drive off [johnuser17]
by stoopy
Apr 19, 2009 (4:38 pm)
I agree with the previous poster. There ain't no way that deal is legit. Maybe if you put $1,500 down.
#167 of 538 Re: 2009 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE $201/mo 15Kmi 270 drive off [stoopy]
by johnuser17
Apr 19, 2009 (10:19 pm)
Hey chuck and stoopy I can understand your disbelief since I couldn't believe or even understand how he got the numbers he did. But believe me it is legit and nothing would make me happier than to have you go to a Subaru dealer in the Bay Area, ask if you bring in proof will you match this price, and I will meet you and show them the copy of my lease. I would get that "match the price" promise in writing though.
So let me address your points chuck:
>>1. An Outback Special Edition doesn't MSRP for $27,754. It would literally have >>to have every accessory known to Subaru and still would be $1,500 short of >>that price.
That is what I thought too but things must have changed since Jan. The Maroni sticker on my car showed an MSRP of $26,138 but he calculated the lease on the computer at $27,754. The car has a listed package at $3 grand or so but then gives a discount1,600. I don't have the sticker in front of me so I am approximating but my guess is he added the discount onto the $26,138. Again there is a $16 deficit there which I can resolve. When I get the sticker from the car tomorrow I can give you the exact numbers.
Weird too that when I go to subaru.com I can't price out the model I have correctly.
Look at this ad that shows the Outback 2.5i SE priced at $27,754
http://ads.ocregister.com/interactive-ads/ocr/images/pdf/0009079660-01.pdf
>>2. Your residual of $14,820 is 53.39%, not 54% but either way the actual >>residual value of an SE 36 month, 15K per year is 53.0%.
The residual on the lease contract is exactly $14,820. I can show that to you
>>3. How did you get out of paying your first monthly payment? Normally you >>have to put down at least $500 in order to do that.
It was a sign and drive lease. My payment would have been $191 with 0 out of pocket but with the FICO drop it went to 201 and I paid registration plus the fees
>>4. Using the numbers you posted your payment would be around $221 not >>$201.
Here are the numbers that show on the lease:
19600-1482=4780 4780/36= 133 dep/mo
(1482+19600)*.002=68 rent/mo
133+68=201/mo + CA tax
So yes, if you include tax the payment is $220/mon
The interesting thing about the SE package is that it includes heated seats and a Harmon Kardon stereo but the climate control is analog with AC. Stereo is nice and has CD. Alloy wheels and 17" 225/55 tires are included. No leather, no dual zone climate control. Has the extended arm rest and Homelink thing on the rear view with a digital compass.
#168 of 538 Re: 2009 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE $201/mo 15Kmi 270 drive off [johnuser17]
by stoopy
Apr 20, 2009 (12:51 pm)
I think you had to have put down or traded around $1,500 to get this deal. That link to the ad states "36 month lease, 10K miles per year, $0 security deposit. First month’s payment, tax, title, acquisition and registration fees extra. Lease Now For Only $216 Plus tax per month for 36 months Only $999 Down!" That's $999 down, plus 1st payment ($235), plus acquisition fee ($595) = $1829.44 due at signing. There's no way you could get even $220 with zero due at signing. Like chuck said, Who did you go thru? Salesman's name and/or number?
#169 of 538 Re: 2009 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE $201/mo 15Kmi 270 drive off [stoopy]
by johnuser17
Apr 20, 2009 (1:27 pm)
Stoopy that was an example of an Outlook 2.5i SE with the MSRP of 27,754. I did not buy my car there. I purchase the car in San Jose,CA.
The car was brand new with 40 miles on. The model number on the Maroni was listed as 9DD
I finally had a chance to look at the Maroni sticker and the MSRP was 26,183. The listed options are auto trans (1,000) Special edition package (3,350) and then a discount on the Special Edition pacage (-1750). My guess is he added that discount back to the $26,183 to get an MSRP of $27,933 . That makes more sense now because as chuck mentioned the residual is %53 for 36mo at 15K miles (27,933*.53=1480).
If you pm me I will tell you exactly who I went to.
#170 of 538 Re: 2009 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE $201/mo 15Kmi 270 drive off [johnuser17]
by stoopy
Apr 21, 2009 (8:37 pm)
Including 6% sales tax the best offer I have gotten on a 2.5i SE was $237 on a 36 month/15K lease. I don't get how you were able to pull this off.
What did you mean by.....
"I finally had a chance to look at the Maroni sticker"
What's a Maroni?
#171 of 538 Re: 2009 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE $201/mo 15Kmi 270 drive off [johnuser17]
by stoopy
Apr 21, 2009 (8:39 pm)
How do I PM you for the dealer info?
I looked at Subaru website and there are two dealers in San Jose. I sent emails to both of them a minute ago. We'll see.
#172 of 538 Re: 2009 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE $201/mo 15Kmi 270 drive off [stoopy]
by johnuser17
Apr 21, 2009 (9:38 pm)
Ok I just realized this forum has no private messaging.
Let me know if you find a Forum that has PM and I will post it there. The only thing I can think of is posting the info on slickdeals as I think they have a PM system
Let me know.
#173 of 538 Re: 2009 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE $201/mo 15Kmi 270 drive off [stoopy]
by kyfdx HOST
Apr 22, 2009 (7:09 am)
Monroney
#174 of 538 Re: 2009 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE $201/mo 15Kmi 270 drive off [kyfdx]
by ateixeira
Apr 22, 2009 (8:39 am)
Correct. the Monroney is the sticker you see on the windshield of new cars. This: