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Subaru Legacy Lease Questions

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2009 Subaru Legacy SE lease residuals for August by fin81
Aug 25, 2008 (10:38 pm)
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Carman or anyone else that could help,
 
Today I put down a deposit for a 2009 Legacy SE lease. I upgraded to a spoiler, fog kit, splash guards, mats, and armrest extension. Can anyone review the numbers and see if they sound any good? This is for a 24 mth./15K lease.
 
MSRP with extras = $24,087
Negotiated Price = $22,461 (Supposedly $100 below invoice through a deal with my employer)
Residual = 78% = $18,787
MF = 0.00313 (This seems very high as I qualify for Tier I credit)
Payment = $269/mth.
 
I am putting $1000 down to cover taxes(8.75%) and part of the acquisition fee....which they are charging $895 for? This cannot be right. Can anyone advise me on the correct Tier I money factor, acquisition fee, and other numbers if possible? TIA
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2009 Subaru Legacy SE lease residual and MF for August by fin81
Aug 25, 2008 (10:41 pm)
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Carman or anyone else that could help,
 
Today I put down a deposit for a 2009 Legacy SE lease. I upgraded to a spoiler, fog kit, splash guards, mats, and armrest extension. Can anyone review the numbers because they don't look good to me. This is for a 24 mth./15K lease.
 
MSRP with extras = $24,087
Negotiated Price = $22,461 (Supposedly $100 below invoice through a deal with my employer)
Residual = 78% = $18,787
MF = 0.00313 (This seems very high as I qualify for Tier I credit)
Payment = $269/mth. which includes $895 acq. fee????? and $1000 down to cover taxes(8.75%), first payment, $88 cap reduction,and $75 in DMV fees
 
This cannot be right and there have to be more hidden charges than the bloated acq. fee. Can anyone advise me on the correct Tier I money factor, residual, acquisition fee, and a good negotiated price on this vehicle? TIA
#200 of 382
Re: 2009 Subaru Legacy SE lease residual and MF for August [fin81] by hellagrant
Aug 26, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: fin81 (Aug 25, 2008 10:41 pm)

Price is high. The things you added aren't that expensive. Get the price to come down more. I would guess at least $800 more.
 
Residual sounds right.
 
MF is too high. If you are tier 1, there is no way that the MF is .00313 = 7.5%. I am tier 1 and I got like......00.0027??? Something like that, which equals almost an entire percentage point in interest.
 
Acq fee!!! Get that thing off. That is complete BS and let them know that it is BS.
 
Where are you located? Because the market for the Legacy can vary greatly. Also, maybe the MF is different across the country. Carman - Can the MF be different for different parts of the country?
#201 of 382
Re: 09 Legacy Limited lease figures--any good? [altimate] by msolomons
Aug 26, 2008 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: altimate (Aug 25, 2008 4:19 pm)

Sorry, it's a three year lease. I know we could get a much better price on the SE as opposed to the Limited but we're suckers for the heated seats which are only available on the Limited.
 
I believe the $2500 down is strictly taxes and fees.
 
To reitererate:
 
2009 Limited with spoiler, dimming mirror, all weather mats
 
MSRP $26,645
Purchase Price $25,413 (includes $500 dealer cashback)
Residual $16,520
12,000 miles, 36 months
$329 monthly payment with $2500 down
 
Mary
#202 of 382
Re: Re: Subaru Legacy: Lease Questions [Car_man] by epmorris
Aug 26, 2008 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Sep 21, 2005 3:15 am)

HI, I'm in MA. How much to lease Forester 2.5X Premium with MSRP of 22500 for 36 mos at 12000 mi/yr? Do you know the money factor and residual to use for this car.
#203 of 382
2009 Legacy SE manual by hellagrant
Sep 03, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Just finished this deal. Great lease deals on the Legacy right now.
 
2009 Legacy SE
5 speed manual transmission
auto dimming mirror
extended armrest
 
24 months
12K miles/year
 
$400 down (includes 1st payment)
$215 + tax / month
 
Residual 78%
 
Residual $18,XXX. Not planning to buy at end of lease, residual is too high.
#204 of 382
Re: 2009 Legacy SE manual [hellagrant] by ateixeira
Sep 03, 2008 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: hellagrant (Sep 03, 2008 9:15 am)

They're gambling on high residuals for sure. I hope they don't run in to the problems that Chrysler is having now.
#205 of 382
September Leases by altimate
Sep 05, 2008 (4:22 am)
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Spoke with the dealer yesterday and the indication was that the residuals are down about 4% from August to September. Since my dealer didn't have any availability last month my salesman worked a price reduction on my lease deal to erase most of the residual change.
 
My deal will only be about $5/mo. more than the August quote with nothing out of pocket except first payment.
 
My decision right now is whether to go with the monthly lease or do a prepaid lease deal. That would save me close to $600 dollars over the life of the lease. I have a $4000+ equity for my trade so prepayment would only cost me about $3000 out of pocket. On the other hand, getting over $4000 cash back from my trade (not using it for cap cost reduction-which is always a bad idea) would give me opportunity to invest money and or use it for the first year of payments.
 
Expect the car I want to be in in about two weeks so I'll make the decision at that time.
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by hellagrant
Sep 09, 2008 (9:25 am)
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That sucks you will end up paying a bit more for the Legacy compared to last month, but it is still a great deal!
 
I would say avoid the prepayment. Yes you will say $600 but most people in America don't have enough emergency funds. Use the $4,000 to pay down other debts that you may have (like credit cards or any other high interest loan). If you don't have any high interest debt than use the $4,000 for liquid savings (probably only get you like 3 %or 4% right now.
 
But I am assuming you are like 75% of the American population without a real good emergency fund. If you have enough backup liquid money and no debt, than go for the prepayment or use the $4,000 to reduce monthly payments.
#207 of 382
Re: [hellagrant] by altimate
Sep 09, 2008 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: hellagrant (Sep 09, 2008 9:25 am)

Thanks for your input. I've got a lot of expenses coming up in the next few months (estimated taxes due, moving expenses) so I think it makes more sense to get the $4000 cash back and just make the monthly payments. It never hurts to have a little extra financial cushion.

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