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Subaru Legacy Lease Questions

382 messages,  Last post on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:50 AM

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Re: $215/ month $0 down Lease [pilot1226] by ateixeira
Aug 14, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: pilot1226 (Aug 14, 2008 7:29 am)

Basically it is their estimate of the value of the car at the end of the lease.
 
Subaru takes the risk - they buy it back at that value whether it's worth that much or not. Often manufacturers will gamble on high residuals just to lease more cars. Some times it works - BMW residuals are high (so are Subaru's).
 
Some times it backfires. See Chrysler.
 
They had to eat such huge losses, they stopped leasing entirely. Chase bank followed suit, and will not lease Chrysler cars either. Residuals are low and I would expect them to drop further.
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Re: $215/ month $0 down Lease [pilot1226] by altimate
Aug 14, 2008 (2:37 pm)
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Replying to: pilot1226 (Aug 14, 2008 7:29 am)

Just to simplify the residual thing a little more. If the Legacy has an msrp of $23000 and the residual is 80% ($18400) on a lease that means the leasee is only paying for $4600 dollars worth of the car (23000-18400=4600) Of course, there is interest, Acq. fee and other charges thrown in along with sales tax.
 
It doesn't work for anyone who wants to buy the car when it goes off lease. Then the purchase price is way to high because of the high residual. I'm planning on doing the lease because it's just a great deal. But obviously it will force me back into the car market in two years.
 
The dealer also offered me an even better deal that I may consider. Prepay the lease in total up front and the cost of the lease is even lower. Probably a savings of $500-600 over making the payments. Since I have an equity of about $4000 in my trade that would mean I have a paid up 2 year lease with about $2900 out of pocket plus my trade. Not bad especially for this well equipped car.
 
One issue that has to be checked out is what would happen in a prepaid lease if the car got totaled or stolen prior to lease end. Do you get back the pro rata portion of your money attributed to the unused lease period or are you up the creek for those funds. The salesperson is checking into that. I think I'd want something specific in the lease contract or something in your insurance policy that deals with that issue.
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Re: $215/ month $0 down Lease [altimate] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 14, 2008 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: altimate (Aug 14, 2008 2:37 pm)

Do you get back the pro rata portion of your money attributed to the unused lease period
 
Yup.. that's how most pre-paid leases work.. As opposed to just making a big CAP cost reduction, which puts that money at risk...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: $215/ month $0 down Lease [ateixeira] by hellagrant
Aug 15, 2008 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 14, 2008 7:18 am)

I hope Subaru isn't going to screw itself over like Chrysler did. The Legacy looks really promising but 80% is crazy high!!! Oh well, as consumers lets all take advantage of this.
 
Does anyone know if it is 80% for all the trims?
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Re: $215/ month $0 down Lease [hellagrant] by altimate
Aug 15, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: hellagrant (Aug 15, 2008 2:54 pm)

My understanding from my salesperson is that only the SE model is getting this type of residual.
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lease quote - question by chambers134
Aug 19, 2008 (4:36 pm)
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I just got quoted on a lease and want to see if it's a good deal or not.
 
09 Legacy Limited
$23,907 price (I get below invoice b/c my employer)
$1500 down
$344 month (includes tax)
36 months - 15K miles/yr
$15,844.75 residual
.00255 money factor
 
Thanks for your help!
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Re: lease quote - question [chambers134] by altimate
Aug 19, 2008 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: chambers134 (Aug 19, 2008 4:36 pm)

I can't say how good or bad that deal is.
 
However, the SE model has such a great lease deal you might want to consider it.
I was quoted 320/mo.(inc tax) on a two year,15000 mi lease with nothing out of pocket. The price would have been $50/mo. lower but I added aftermarket leather, XM radio and 15000 mi up from 12000 on the standard lease.
 
The limited has some extras but if you can save 50-100/mo. and a 1500 downpayment I would think that would be a great alternative.
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Re: lease quote - question [altimate] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 19, 2008 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: altimate (Aug 19, 2008 5:19 pm)

I think we are comparing the 2008 SE with the 2009 Limited..
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Re: lease quote - question [kyfdx] by altimate
Aug 19, 2008 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 19, 2008 5:29 pm)

No, we are definitely talking about a 2009 Legacy SE. In fact, the dealer is waiting for delivery of these cars.`
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Re: lease quote - question [altimate] by ahq
Aug 19, 2008 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: altimate (Aug 19, 2008 6:28 pm)

Yep, altimate is indeed referring to the *2009* Legacy 2.5i Special Edition. I've been driving my 2009 2.5i SE Automatic for a week now. Taking out the trade difference (I was upside-down by $320) that was rolled into the 24 monthly payments, I would've paid $230 per month (plus tax) for my car, but as it stands I'm paying $243 per month, plus tax.
 
This is a two-year, 12K miles per year, sign-and-drive lease. I only had to pay the first month's payment, title/license/registration/etc., and the $99 service fee. (It came out to about $520 up front.)
 
My Legacy stickered at $22,943, and aside from the $300 Special Edition package (power moonroof, power driver's seat, and Harman Kardon audio system), the only other options that my car has are the automatic transmission ($1000) and auto-dimming rearview mirror ($183). BTW my car is Seacrest Green with the cream-colored interior.

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