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Replying to: tornadoredr32 (Mar 16, 2007 7:30 am) Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum |
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If I got a quote I can live with, do I still need to negotiate the selling price and money factor? I'm not sure I understand how to use these numbers and don't feel comfortable negotiating terms I don't understand. If I don't negotiate these things, is it true that I can owe money on the back end of the lease? Thanks!
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Dear hosts and knowledgeable people around, I am new to this forum, although I'm old to Edmunds.com. I hope you'll find the time to help a newbie. In May 2006, I leased a 2006 2.5i manual Sport Wagon. The car is great; however, I am seriously considering terminating the lease early and instead starting a new lease for a 2007 WRX Limited sedan (manual). My current lease details (on the '06 2.5i Sp. Wagon): - MSRP: 18,833; high, I guess; - net capitalized cost: 17,004 (after rebates, $1,000 down payment, and negociations); good, I guess; - residual: 8,637; low, I now realize; - depreciation: remaining 8,367; - APR: 2.88% (i.e. money factor: 0.0012); good, I think; - term: 48 months; - mileage: 15,000/ year; So now I pay: (depreciation 174 + rent charge 31) * (tax 110%) = 225 a month. The car is almost 1 year old, with 11,500 miles on it; exceptional condition, practically no wear and tear. After this long introduction, my questions: (A) If I return this car tomorrow to the dealership (good one, Day Apollo near Pittsburgh, PA), how much of a hit should I expect? In 4 years, 60,000 miles it would have depreciated $8,368... How much has the car depreciated in 1 year, 11,500 miles, in your opinion? I know I paid 174 * 12 = $2,088 towards depreciation, so I'd subtract that from your number and get an idea of how hard I'll be hit. (B) Will it help (financially) that I want to lease another Subaru, and that I'm all good with their captive company? All I want is a more powerful car (C) For a 2007 Impreza WRX Limited (manual!), what invoice should I try to obtain; what residual value; what APR (can I get the same low 2.88%)? I'd do 48 months, 15,000 miles/year, same as I have right now. (D) Any advice on when should I be doing this, i.e. on when good incentives might show? May, June, July? I'm 100% I want the '07 (completely personal preference on the redesign for '08). (E) Will insurance go higher (by a lot)? I'm 26, not married, no kids, good job, okay driving record (speeding ticket last year, 10mph extra after many negociations). I am sorry for posting such a long first message. I do hope somebody will find the time to help out. Thanks a lot, --Bogdan, WRX wanna-be-owner |
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Replying to: bdumitru (Apr 19, 2007 9:09 am) Now is a good time. Later might be slightly better, but even if prices do creep down a tad, selection will dwindle quickly. If you're picky about color, don't wait.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 19, 2007 9:21 am) Thanks for your reply. "Being married would also help, but rates shouldn't be too bad." I know, but... not now, hehe. Now, I'm more worried about the financial hit I might be taking on returning the '06 2.5i (details in my first message). Any guesstimate?... Thanks, --Bogdan
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Replying to: bdumitru (Apr 19, 2007 10:06 am) Some people prefer the old styling, so that might also help. Sell it privately, though, you'll get killed on a wholesale trade-in.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 19, 2007 10:31 am) Well, I can't really sell it It's leased, so all I can try is to find someone to take over the lease, right? Or am I wrong? How "killed" do you think I'll get?... The car depreciates (according to the lease contract) ~$8,300 in 4 years, 15,000 miles/year. Now it has 1 year, 11,000 miles. Granted, it's the first year What do people here think? Thanks, --B
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Replying to: bdumitru (Apr 19, 2007 11:32 am) In this case the same dealer may be your best bet. He'll be motivated to make the new deal so he may help you get out of the old one. Still, you will have taken delivery of two brand new cars, and New Car Smell is the most expensive smell in the world. |
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Replying to: researchworks (Mar 24, 2007 5:30 am) The only charges that you may have to pay at lease-end are an excess mileage penalty if you exceed your mileage allowance, an excess wear and tear penalty if your vehicle is in rough shape, and a disposition fee if the bank that you are leasing through charges one. Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum |
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Replying to: bdumitru (Apr 19, 2007 9:09 am) You can determine approximately how much it will cost you to get out of your current lease by comparing its purchase price to its value on the open market at this time. You should place a call to the bank that you are leasing your vehicle through to find out its exact price. Once you know exactly how much money it is going to cost you to buy your leased vehicle you need to compare it to its current value on the open market. You can find out approximately what your vehicle is worth by looking up its Edmunds.com True Market Value in the Used Vehicle Pricing section of this site. You also may want to stop by the following discussion: "Real-World Trade-In Values". Don't forget to check to see if you are still on the hook for your remaining lease payments. The difference between your leased vehicle's current value and how much it will cost you to buy it plus any remaining lease payments that you are obligated to pay will equal the cost of getting out of your lease right now. You may find that you are better off waiting until you are closer to the scheduled end of your lease to get another new vehicle. The fact that you want to lease another Subaru through Subaru Finance probably will not make much of a difference. If you decide to lease a 2007 Impreza WRX Sedan through Subaru Finance right now for 48 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value would be .00245 and 56%, respectively. When negotiating your lease on this car, make sure to take the $500 lease cash that is currently available on it into account. Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum
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