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Lease on Impreza wagon with navigation and satellite radio by mattf2
Mar 31, 2009 (8:45 pm)
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I closed Monday on a 2009 Impreza wagon with navigation and satellite radio in the Chicago area. The MSRP with options was $24,158, but they sold it to me for $21,407 after a $750 rebate (several hundred dollars below invoice). The Tier I money factor was .0027 for 36 months, .00269 for 39, .00266 for 42 months, and .00274 for 48 months. The residual value was 52% for 36 months, 50% for 39, 49% for 42 months, and 44% for 48 months. I went with 42 months. An independent leasing company told me the residual on the Impreza wagon is lower than the sedan; apparently fewer people want to wagon. (I think that's weird, but I like hatchbacks.) Thanks for your help.
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leasing question by sdfoer
Apr 01, 2009 (7:14 pm)
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how you guys doin.me and my wife recentlly went to a subaru dealer in nj she was interested in leasing a impreza they ran her credit and then told her she couldnt because she had a credit score of 635 she filed bankruptcy 4 years ago and everything is discharged can yo get a lease even tho you dont have perfect credit? this is our first car we are trying to get so the game is new to us any help is appreciated
thanks in advance
 
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Re: leasing question [sdfoer] by stoopy
Apr 03, 2009 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: sdfoer (Apr 01, 2009 7:14 pm)

You CAN lease a car with a Tier IV credit score of 620 although you wouldn't want to. The finance charge (money factor) is more than twice that of a 700+ Tier I. Wouldnt make any financial sense.
 
Buy it on a 60 month bank loan, it will be way, way cheaper.
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Re: Lease on Impreza wagon with navigation and satellite radio [mattf2] by chuck68516
Apr 03, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: mattf2 (Mar 31, 2009 8:45 pm)

Actually, the Money Factor for Tier I is .00220 not the .00270 you got. You are probably Tier II. 39 month would've also been .00220 not .00269. They effed you if your credit score is actually above 700.
 
Why would you lease for 42 months? You are going to be out of warranty for 6 months. Plus you'll have to put new tires on it before you turn it in. I'm guessing your payment is just over $355 a month unless you put money down. Not a good deal at all in my opinion.
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The details of our new Outback Sport by lch77
Apr 03, 2009 (8:49 am)
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I still think my "quick" check of lease prices takes everything (MSRP, MF, Cap Cost, rebates and residual) into account. I base it on minimal money down (title & doc fees, etc.), 36 months and 15,000 miles per year. Just divide the MSRP by the monthly payment. 70-75 is typical. 80 is very good. 90 is excellent, and 100 and over is great. As a test, try this on any lease you're looking at. Of course, the best way is to convert all of your costs into PV using your personal opportunity interest rate (not the MF), but this method is complicated and time consuming.
 
Anyway, now that I am reviewing the details below (lease factor of 74 - not too good), but it looks like I'm paying within $26 of Invoice less $1000 in rebates plus acquisition fee.
 
2009 Subaru Outback Sport with iPod interface, splash guards, armrest extension with an MSRP of $22,208.
 
MSRP: $22,208
Edmunds Invoice: $20,997
Aquisition fee: $595
Residual: $12658.56 (based on the above 58%, it appears that the splash guards are included in the residual, but the iPod interface and arm rest extension are not)
Car Show Coupon: $500
Factory Rebate: $500
Cap Cost: $20,566.35
MF: .00220 (as reported here, not from the dealer)
 
Monthly Lease: $301.73 plus 9% PA tax= $328.89
OTD: $549 ($328.89+doc, license, title fees of $220.11)
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impreza lease by sdfoer
Apr 03, 2009 (9:01 am)
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thanks for the help....we are going to buy either a impreza or mazda 3 well see....its just dealing with the shady salesmen sometimes gets frustrating first car so we are learning as we go to dealers and hlp wit purchasing options is appreciated
thanks again
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Re: The details of our new Outback Sport [lch77] by indianajohns
Apr 04, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: lch77 (Apr 03, 2009 8:49 am)

There really is no need to do any kind of "GUESSTIMATES." It only takes 30 seconds to calculate a lease down to the penny. All you need is the MF, Residual, MSRP, Selling Price + fees, sales tax rate. It literallly takes half a minute to figure. I could see inventing some kind of shortcut if it was a Good WIll Hunting type equation but it isn't. Basic math skills will give you an EXACT payment in mere seconds.
 
Also, the 15,000 mile residuals for a 2009 Outback Sport AT is 65% on 24 months, 57% on 36 months and there are no factory rebates to customer. There is $500 in manufacturer to dealer cash. I've seen selling prices for these at $19,500 plus the acquistion fee. Don't even bother to check TMV price. Doesn't equate to anything. Monthly payment for 15K, 36 months would be $303.87 including tax. 12,000 miles would be $297.68 including tax.
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2009 Subaru Impreza Premium Pkg by wonwayout
Apr 04, 2009 (9:44 am)
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I just leased a 2009 Impreza, automatic transmission with Premium Pkg plus a remote auto start and iPod adapter. 36 month lease, 10k miles per year. $950 down, $275/month. Buyout is $12,300. Seemed like a good eal. enjoying the vehicle so far. FYI, this was from a northern NJ Subaru dealership, leased through their arrangement with Chase.
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Re: The details of our new Outback Sport [indianajohns] by lch77
Apr 04, 2009 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: indianajohns (Apr 04, 2009 9:16 am)

True you can do that with a lease calculator after you get those factors, but the only place I've been able to find out what they are is when Car Man posts them. Also, I believe your numbers are for the Outback, not the Imprezza Outback Sport, correct?
 
My lease factor is not used to determine what the lease is but "is it a good deal?" And this is "is it a good deal versus any car you can lease" versus "is it a good deal" on this particular car." My deal was based on $1000 under Invoice, a .00220 MF and an approximate 58% residual. I think it was about as good as can be had for THIS car in March/April 2009 so in that perspective, it was a good deal, but the lease factor of only 74 tells me that there are better deals out there for other cars.
 
If you go to Suburu's website, you see a lease offer that gives a lease factor of over 100. Well, at fist that looks great compared to my 74 but requires $1120 down and only 12K miles. Even with that, it's pretty good as to get that rate they used a 62% residual and an approximate .00180 MF. Delete the down payment and increase the miles to 15K and comparable lease goes to about $220 or a lease factor of 82, which I think is pretty good.
 
So how can they advertise a 84 factor when i only got a 74%? Probably, the OBS has options that don't residualize as well and they used a "teaser" MF to get you into the store.
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Re: The details of our new Outback Sport [lch77] by chuck68516
Apr 04, 2009 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: lch77 (Apr 04, 2009 11:18 am)

Those are the numbers I have for the Impreza Outback Sport (9LK) as well. 57% & .220
 
You could finance this car through Subary at 2.9% for 60 months wiith a payment of $376. Then you could claim the sales tax (financed in) as a deduction on your 2009 Income Tax Return.

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