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Re: 09 Limited Lease Quote [milzo] by Car_man HOST
Jan 09, 2009 (3:25 am)
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Replying to: milzo (Dec 30, 2008 9:34 am)

You're very welcome, milzo. Thanks for stopping back and letting us all know how everything turned out. If you'd like, you can also hop on over to the Dealer Ratings & Reviews section of Edmunds.com to share your thoughts on your recent dealer experience with others as well. Enjoy your new ride !
 
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Re: Forester XT Limited [chuck68516] by Car_man HOST
Jan 09, 2009 (3:34 am)
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Replying to: chuck68516 (Jan 01, 2009 6:57 pm)

Hi chuck68516. For 36 month leases, Subaru's 10,000 mile per year residual value is 2% higher than its 15k residual.
 
Subaru actually runs its lease program through Chase right now. I believe that Chase's current base acquisition fee is $595.
 
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Re: Current Numbers [djhalptert] by Car_man HOST
Jan 09, 2009 (3:54 am)
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Replying to: djhalptert (Jan 03, 2009 10:10 am)

Here's the information that you're looking for, djhalptert. Subaru's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Forester 2.5X with 10,000 miles per year are .00150 and 60%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an '09 Forester 2.5X Limited are .00160 and 60%. The numbers for an '09 2.5X Premium are .00160 and 61%.
 
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Re: 2009 Forester 2.5X Limited [stoopy] by Car_man HOST
Jan 09, 2009 (3:59 am)
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Replying to: stoopy (Jan 04, 2009 9:01 am)

Hi stoopy. Don't bother going with a 24 month lease. Subaru is not providing any support on 2 year leases right now. Leasing one for that short a term will provide you with a significantly higher payment than a 3 year lease will.
 
Its current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Forester 2.5X Limited with 10,000 miles per year are .00160 and 60%, respectively.
 
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XT Limited by redbrd1
Jan 12, 2009 (9:28 pm)
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Can you please give me the lease money factor and residual value for a 2009 XT Limited? I am looking for 36 months and 15K miles per year.
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Re: 2009 Forester 2.5X Limited [Car_man] by stoopy
Jan 13, 2009 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 09, 2009 3:59 am)

What were the 24 month lease numbers? I still would like to know if it makes any sense. Thanks.
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2009 2.5XLT Limited w/VDC no navi - need advice by tsxowwner
Jan 17, 2009 (8:47 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 09, 2009 3:59 am)

Hi Car_man
 
TMV shows a deal at subaru on a lease of a 2009 2.5XLT Limited w/VDC with no navi
 
msrp 28,890, 10k miles/yr, 595 acqui fee, 1000 dealer incentive, cap reduc down pymnt $1,150, 36 months at $308 b4 taxes. At $28,890 msrp, it looks like it is the $28,195 base plus $695 utility pkge.
 
i went to the dealer today and they said that was one of the deals in the national program. I also found out the following - it's based on a residual of 60% and mf of .0016. Oh also, it conveniently doesn't include destination fee of $665 (which would raise the monthly lease payment from $308 to $317).
 
I like the car, but am interested in a $12k mile lease and no utility pkge. The sales guy said the residual would drop by 1% to 59% for moving from 10k to 12k miles/yr.
 
Also, I don't want to put the $1,150 down and also don't want to work from msrp minus 1,000 dlr incentive. I assume even though this is a national program, i can negotiate the lease - right? This kind of slipped my mind in the showroom until the guy said he would take care of the last payment of my current lease.
 
so i left and went home to do some more homework. TMV shows invoice at $26,384 and that others are paying $26,639 so $255 over invoice.
 
i recalculated the lease numbers based a no utility pkge car with msrp $28,195, 12k miles/yr, $595 acqui fee, $665 destination, and a $26,639 cap cost (no down payment, no dealer incentive). this results in a lease payment of $398/mo b4 tax.
 
a few questions:
- am i correct on the above statement/numbers
- is the dealer incentive of 1,000 only available if i do the national program and work from msrp or should i expect that i should offer $26,639 minus $1,000.
- should i come in lower then $26,639. edmunds shows subaru holdback of 3% of msrp (might vary in northeast - where i live). 3% of msrp is $845.
 
guidance appreciated
thanks
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Re: 2009 2.5XLT Limited w/VDC no navi - need advice [tsxowwner] by tsxowwner
Jan 17, 2009 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: tsxowwner (Jan 17, 2009 8:47 pm)

car man
 
found a few errors in my post so i fixed and reposted
  
TMV shows a deal at subaru on a lease of a 2009 2.5XLT Limited w/VDC with no navi
 
msrp 28,890, 10k miles/yr, 595 acqui fee, 1000 dealer incentive, cap reduc down pymnt $1,150, cap cost $27,335, 36 months at $349 b4 taxes. At $28,890 msrp, it looks like it is the $28,195 base plus $695 utility pkge.
  
i went to the dealer today and they said that was one of the deals in the national program. I also found out the following - it's based on a residual of 60% and mf of .0016. Oh also, it conveniently doesn't include destination fee of $665 (which would raise the monthly lease payment from $349 to $358).
  
I like the car, but am interested in a 12k mile lease and no utility pkge. The sales guy said the residual would drop by 1% to 59% for moving from 10k to 12k miles/yr.
  
Also, I don't want to put the $1,150 down and also don't want to work from msrp minus 1,000 dlr incentive. I assume even though this is a national program, i can negotiate the lease - right? This kind of slipped my mind in the showroom until the guy said he would take care of the last payment of my current lease.
  
so i left and went home to do some more homework. for a no utility package 2.5xlt limited, TMV shows msrp $28,195 invoice at $26,384 and that others are paying $26,639 so seems to be $255 over invoice.
  
i recalculated the lease numbers based a no utility pkge car with msrp $28,195, 12k miles/yr, $595 acqui fee, $665 destination, 36 mo., 59% residual and a $27,899 cap cost (no down payment, no dealer incentive). this results in a lease payment of $374/mo b4 tax.
  
a few questions:
- am i correct on the above statement/numbers
- is the dealer incentive of $1,000 only available if i do the national program and work from msrp or should i expect that i should offer $26,639 minus $1,000.
- should i come in lower then $26,639. edmunds shows subaru holdback of 3% of msrp (might vary in northeast - where i live). 3% of msrp is $845.
- also where does excise tax fit in with the monthly payment
- what else should i be thinking about.
  
guidance appreciated
thanks
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Re: 2009 2.5XLT Limited w/VDC no navi - need advice [tsxowwner] by indianajohns
Jan 18, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: tsxowwner (Jan 17, 2009 9:26 pm)

First of all, I've been getting quotes of $300 to $500 under invoice plus any rebates on every Subaru model I've looked at.
 
My second thought on your post is WHAT IS THE UTILITY PACKAGE? Never heard of it, never seen it, never seen it at Subaru.com. The only $695 cost on any/all window stickers I've seen was the Destination Charge. Since June 08 it went up from $665 to $695. I think you may be confusing those numbers.
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Re: 2009 2.5XLT Limited w/VDC no navi - need advice [indianajohns] by tsxowwner
Jan 18, 2009 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: indianajohns (Jan 18, 2009 7:34 am)

thank you for clarifying the $695. this seems to make more sense.
 
the salesguy had told me $28,890 didn't include destination (hmmm). So I assumed if that was the case - in order to get to $28,890 from $28,195, it had to include an option. On Edmunds, if you choose the forester w/ 28,195 msrp and then click options, it's lists a utility package for $695. here is how it is listed.
 
F9V Utility Package
Includes aero cross bars, wheel arch moldings, rear bumper cover and splash guards INCLUDES U9B and Q9L and P9J and P9A.
 
That said, I still think you are right.
 
On your first point - I didn't even consider under invoice. Invoice on edmunds shows $26,384. Based on $500 under, this would make a 12k, 36 mo lease, 59% resid, .0016MF and 26,979 cap cost, a monthly of $332 b4 tax. Seems like a pretty good deal.
 
i have a few questions
- you mentioned "plus any rebates". I am not aware of any - are you? There is the $1,000 dealer incentive, but if i am asking for $500 under invoice, would that apply on top of it?
- is $500 under invoice dipping into the holdback or something else?
 
The only other issues i am running into is of all the 2.5 XLT's listed on dealer websites in massachusetts, none are $28,890 since most have a few add ins. I guess if i can get it for under invoice, i am not too concerned with a few adds ins breaking my budget.
 
The other issue is, looking at the inventory, there is a limited supply it seems of the 2.5XLT. most dealers list between zero and four of them.There are a ton of the 2.5XL's. Since the supply is low, do you think this will limit my ability to get $500 under invoice? Is the answer any different if they don't have one on the lot and need to get from another dealer. certainly, i have a number of subaru dealers around me so i probably will go to the one with cars on the lot.
 
thanks in advance for your responses on the various questions above.

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