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Saab 9-7X Lease Questions

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What is this discussion about? Saab 9-7X, Car Leasing, SUV


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Re: My leasing experience [mister_mark] by sbr3500
Aug 16, 2006 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: mister_mark (Aug 16, 2006 9:07 am)

Sounds like you got basically the same deal I did. Had you paid the 966 up front, your payment would have almost the same as the $465 i was quoted on that car. I chose the smaller engine with nav and dvd for $440. I drove my other saab 8,000 miles over 31 months. I take the train from CT to NYC everyday. It's basically a train car and I use it on the weekend. Sounds like we both did well.
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Re: My leasing experience [sbr3500] by mister_mark
Aug 16, 2006 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: sbr3500 (Aug 16, 2006 10:15 am)

Yeah, I would have gone for the smaller engine too, but apparently, there were no more '06 black/black 4.2i with navigation anywhere to be found. I'm happy with what I got.
 
Did you calculate your rent charge to the penny as I did? (I know I'm more interested in precision than a lot of people. I think I drove my salesperson nuts.)
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Re: My leasing experience [mister_mark] by sbr3500
Aug 16, 2006 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: mister_mark (Aug 16, 2006 10:38 am)

Picked up the car last night (black with Tan).
 
The rent charge was 3.7% and the car price was just a hair over $39,000 (I think). I called my salesman (same one as other Saab I had) and told him 2 things: 1.) sharpen the pencil on the numbers as tight as possible so I don't get tempted to call other Saab dealers in the area & 2.) If I don't like the deal I am going to wait until my lease is up and drive everything before making a decision(MDX, Tourag, Etc.) I had 5 payments left and the dealer paid the last 2 and Saab pulled ahead on the other 3.
 
After that, I felt confident I was getting a good deal based on information on the internet and I trust the guy. My sales guy spent 10 minutes on this deal. I am in Greenwich, CT ... they got the car from a dealer in Mass ... was the only left in the northeast.
 
It's a cool car, I like it so far. I drove it 1.2 miles to the train this morning!
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Re: My leasing experience [sbr3500] by mister_mark
Aug 16, 2006 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: sbr3500 (Aug 16, 2006 11:17 am)

Sounds good.
 
Yeah, I was told the rent charge was 3.7% too, but the only way to really know what you got is to calculate it yourself. It's a little complicated, but certainly doable.
 
Here's the formula to use according to leaseguide.com (the info can be found at http://www.leaseguide.com/lease08.htm):
 
Rent Charge ÷ ( (Adjusted Cap Cost + Residual) x Term ) = Money Factor
 
To convert the money factor into your interest rate, multiply the money factor by 2400.
 
This is the only way to make sure their math is correct. If you calculate it, let me know if it looks correct to you. Mine appears to be more like 3.79%.
 
If you need help, let me know.
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Re: My leasing experience [mister_mark] by sbr3500
Aug 16, 2006 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: mister_mark (Aug 16, 2006 11:28 am)

I signed the lease on the dotted line. I don't live in the past and Math is not my specialty. Do you really care at this point knowing if it was exactly 3.7 or 3.79?
 
What I care about is that I forget to ask of the NAV replaces the 6 disc DC and I think the car only has 1 CD ... Am I wrong??? ... Need to play with it tonight on my 1.2 mile drive home.
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Re: My leasing experience [sbr3500] by mister_mark
Aug 16, 2006 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: sbr3500 (Aug 16, 2006 11:43 am)

Well, I do care about my money, so if I'm told something is going to cost a certain amount and it turns out that there were hidden charges, then yeah, it would bother me.
 
I'm not "living in the past". I just like to understand the contracts I sign, not only for my own benefit, but so I can help others in the future.
 
Even the finance manager told me that she didn't understand how the lease was put together! Something's wrong with that. I think a business should be able to explain their charges.
 
About your question, yeah, the NAV can only hold 1 CD at a time. The NAV replaces the 6-disc player.
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Re: My leasing experience [mister_mark] by sbr3500
Aug 16, 2006 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: mister_mark (Aug 16, 2006 12:03 pm)

I hope I didn't appear confrontational, not my intent. I was simply focused on the $440 number for 27 months ... after that, didn't really care how they got to the number.
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Dividing by 2400... by kyfdx HOST
Aug 16, 2006 (12:18 pm)
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...is just a rough calculation... It doesn't come out exactly the same... Generally, when converting from the money factor and multiplying by 2400, you will overstate the interest rate charged...
 
The conversion assumes that the same amount is subject to interest over the life of the lease, but if it were a true loan, the balance would be higher in the early part of the lease, and lower later...
 
Of course, leases don't work exactly like that, so the conversion isn't exact.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: My leasing experience [sbr3500] by mister_mark
Aug 16, 2006 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: sbr3500 (Aug 16, 2006 12:15 pm)

Nah, I didn't take it as confrontational at all. I just wanted to fully explain my reasoning.
 
Most people do focus on the monthly payment. It's understandable.
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Re: Dividing by 2400... [kyfdx] by mister_mark
Aug 16, 2006 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 16, 2006 12:18 pm)

Thanks, kyfdx. I really appreciate your speaking up.
 
So, is there any way to really know what your rent charge should be on a lease? And if so, how do you calculate it?
 
I was told my interest rate would be 3.7%, so I assumed the money factor would be 3.7 ÷ 2400 = .0015417. If I wanted to know the exact rent charge ahead of time, should I have asked them for the money factor instead?

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