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#503 of 546 Re: May Lease Deals? Anyone out here? [jackforette] by matrsoskin May 19, 2008 (6:13 am)
Replying to: jackforette (May 19, 2008 2:44 am) Please put aside your talking points and read your previous posts as well as mine.    For anyone to compare the quality and reliability of Toyota, Honda and Nissan over the last decade to that of VW is silly. I was not making a comparison. I demonstrated that no car maker was perfect and VW was working on its reliability issues and making a good progress. Why, do you think, Kelly Blue Book has recently named VW as a 2008 Best Resale Value Brand? You seemed to agree that Toyota and Nissan did have and do have reliability issues. Come on, you know it, I know it and even Toyota president has publicly admitted that his company car quality has been slipping recently.   The strong Euro hurts VW on price ... and, therefore, on sales too? But VW is doing just fine outside of the North America market.    if the best you can do is brag about one average car and one very recent above average score in reliability for VW, you are playing a very weak hand. Passat, Touareg, Beetle anyone? Those models are not the bread and butter ones for VW: the Jetta (Bora) and Golf/Rabbit are. Again, I am not saying that VW is perfect, I just countered your argument that VW could do (or not doing) nothing about its quality issues.   ...I might take you seriously but right now I'm laughing. Are you OK?   Yours is just opinion. Nope, "Just the facts mam, just the facts". Replies to this message: jackforette (May 19, 2008 7:58 am)
#504 of 546 Re: May Lease Deals? Anyone out here? [matrsoskin] by jackforette May 19, 2008 (7:58 am)
Replying to: matrsoskin (May 19, 2008 6:13 am) I'm perfectly fine my friend but your argument is silly. I have already re-read all of the posts and your argument still remains silly. Toyota slipping still places them higher than anything VW does reliability wise. VW's remain famously (or infamously) unreliable. I hope the small gains they have made making 2 of there models somewhat more acceptable in terms of reliability continue across their entire model lineup for the next 10 years and then someone can mention them in the same sentence as the Japanese makes without everyone laughing. Toyota has a stellar reputation for quality/reliability over many years with very few hiccups. VW has a horrible reputation for quality over many years with very few successes. Yet you try to cloud the debate by lumping these 2 very different company histories together by saying no car maker is perfect as if the recent troubles of Toyota negate their terrific brand history just as VW's limited recent success negates their awful brand history. See how that works? Toyota has recent problems and VW has limited recent success so see, no car maker is perfect. You are doing logical gymnastics here desperately trying to prove your point to no avail Do yourself a favor, buy a copy of Consumer Reports for 2008 cars and compare VW to Toyota for reliabilty history and to humor yourself ignore the history and just concetrate on recent dates to test your opinion and notice how many cars Toyotas cannot recommend due to reliability problems compared to VW. Andd note how many 2008 VW's cannot be recommended due to reliability problems. Clearly, VW has not made much progress with new model VW's reliability issues which contradicts your opinion with research based fact Game, Set, Match.
#505 of 546 Re: May Lease Deals? Anyone out here? [cartalk8] by dadozer May 19, 2008 (12:25 pm)
Replying to: cartalk8 (May 13, 2008 7:40 am) I was offered a saab 9-3 auto, cold weather, moonroof for 3200 out of pocket and a monthly payment of 368/month. Is this a good deal? If not what should I be paying?   Selling Price-31,065 Replies to this message: jackforette (May 20, 2008 6:54 am) chazbug (May 20, 2008 11:52 am)
#506 of 546 Re: May Lease Deals? Anyone out here? [dadozer] by jackforette May 20, 2008 (6:54 am)
Replying to: dadozer (May 19, 2008 12:25 pm) Unfortunately, Saab does not appear to be offering good deals right now on the 9-3. My advice would be to never put money down on a lease. If your car gets stolen or is totaled, you will never get that money back so poof, $3200 of your money is gone as is the car you had and you have to start fresh on a new car and a new deal.
#507 of 546 Re: May Lease Deals? Anyone out here? [dadozer] by chazbug May 20, 2008 (11:52 am)
Replying to: dadozer (May 19, 2008 12:25 pm) The comment about not putting any money down is correct. However, in my experience with a couple of Saab dealers, they're not very pro "sign and drive" w/no money down. They try to convince you that it's a "cash flow" issue. Yes, by putting more down upfront you're not paying as much in taxes in the end. However, putting money down puts you at risk as was stated, and, that's money you can't invest elsewhere. With no money down your monthly price will be higher than $368/month--figure mid $400s. The price that was quoted to you with money down seems about the going rate. This past December I put $3000 down and pay roughtly $386/month for a 9-3 automatic, moonroof, cold weather package, premium package, jet black metallic, standard radio, standard seats, standard wheels. If I had to do over again, I would have gone with an '07 60th Anniversary Edition last September, which I could have gotten with the Aero type seats and leather for $340/month with that kind of money down. Or, if you're not in a hurry, wait until the summer/early Fall--if sales are down this year as others have stated, they'll start having their "Fire Sale" and perhaps you'll get an even better deal.
#508 of 546 Re: Opinions of this offer? [tjones39] by Car_man HOST May 21, 2008 (2:51 am)
Replying to: tjones39 (Apr 22, 2008 11:18 pm) Hi tjones39. Saab's current base lease rate and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2008 9-3 2.0T Sedan with 15,000 miles per year are 4.35% and 69%, respectively. The lease rate for an otherwise identical 27 month lease is the same, but its residual value would be 1% lower. If you were to lease with only 12,000 miles per year, both of these residual values would be 1% higher. The $2,500 dealer cash that is currently available on this car is not compatible with its special lease program.   Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
#509 of 546 Re: Saab 93 lease rates [theras] by Car_man HOST May 21, 2008 (2:55 am)
Replying to: theras (Apr 23, 2008 7:40 am) Hello theras. You can get the 2.0T data that you are interested in from my previous post. Saab's current base lease rate and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2008 9-3 Aero Sedan with 10,000 miles per year are 4.35% and 73%. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are 4.35% and 62%. As a current Saab owner or lessee, you are eligible for a $1,000 cash incentive on the '08 9-3.   Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum Replies to this message: theras (May 22, 2008 12:36 pm) Car_man (Jun 13, 2008 2:31 am) wpbond (Jul 08, 2008 11:41 pm) Car_man (Jul 11, 2008 1:52 am)
#510 of 546 Focus on leasing people by Car_man HOST May 21, 2008 (3:03 am)
Hi everyone. While the debate about the quality of Volkswagen's vehicles compared to that of other manufacturers' is interesting, it is off-topic. Please try to keep the discussion focused on leasing Saabs, specifically the 9-3. Thanks.   Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
#511 of 546 Re: Saab 93 lease rates [Car_man] by theras May 22, 2008 (12:36 pm)
Replying to: Car_man (May 21, 2008 2:55 am) I appreciate the assistance Car_Man. I have decided to hold off on Saab's pull ahead offer due to model availability, but may be seeking an update on your information in a month or two. Thanks again! Replies to this message: Car_man (Jun 13, 2008 2:31 am)
#512 of 546 2008 Saab Aero 4-Door Sedan by saablease May 24, 2008 (9:28 am)
I am looking to lease a 2008 Saab Aero Sedan (w/ Automatic Transmission) w/ 15K miles/year. Since the Aero already includes many upgrades, I would not need any additional options. What would I expect a good deal to be on the sales price as well as my monthly payment and down payment?   My initial research suggests that the dealers in S. Florida have very limited quantities of the 2008 Aero 4-door sedan.   Thanks, in advance.

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