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Re: Questions on an '08 Saab 9-3 2.0T Lease Deal [chazbug] by bluebird23
Dec 14, 2007 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: chazbug (Dec 14, 2007 4:08 am)

Sounds like a decent deal on the lease end, but the fees need to be negotiated out. He is giving you Saab's rate of 4.35%, which is good because sometimes it is marked up. So the lease part looks like this with no money towards cap reduction:
MSRP: 33730
Sales Price: 31764
Residual : 60%
Money Factor: .0018125
Effective APR: 4.35%
Term: 39
Residual: 20238
Depreciation: 11526
Monthly Depreciation: 295.54
Monthly Finance Fee: 94.25
Total Monthly Payment: 389.79
 
Now here is what you need to do to improve this deal
1) Saab's lease acquisition fee is $595. They are marking it up $100 on you. Tell them you know it's $595, and that is what you expect to pay.
2) The security deposit is BS. I believe this buys the interest rate down, but the rate is 4.35 without the deposit, so they are making more money because of this. I would negotiate this out.
3) Like the other poster stated, the gas fee is BS. The $45 dollar dealer fee also sounds like BS. It's called added dealer profit, and I would negotiate it out.
 
So you should be able to negotiate a down payment of $2316 = $388 + 595 Bank Fee,+$12.50 NY State tire recycling fee + $1311 NY State Sales Tax (at a rate of 8.375%) + $10 NY State Inspection
 
They probably will balk at this, but if you threaten to walk, or tell them you got a better deal elsewhere, they will likely come around.
 
Good luck. I just leased one myself. It was a painwith all the games they tried to play. I had to walk out of the finance office twice when signing the papers because they tried to sneak extra fee's in there. So keep on your toes.
 
p.s. That sucks that NY makes you pay the tax up front. One of the big advantages of leasing for me is you only pay tax on the monthly payment, so your only paying on the depreciation, not the full value of the car.
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Re: Questions on an '08 Saab 9-3 2.0T Lease Deal [bluebird23] by saablcp
Dec 15, 2007 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: bluebird23 (Dec 14, 2007 3:26 pm)

N.Y.,N.J. and I believe CT. charge the $695.00 bank fee.The additional $100.00 is a result of State mandated
charges.It's only within the last two years or so that you are again able to lease a car in those states.Liability issues being worked out in the judicial system completely eliminated closed end leasing in those states for a couple of years,you could only do a Balloon note.So forget the idea that it's a dealer mark-up and a negotiable item.
 The rate is currently based at 4.35% and you have to have Saab lease loyalty or owner loyalty eligibility for an automatic waiver of security deposit otherwise the rate DOES have to be marked up .50%.
 You honestly think this guy should make an issue over a $45.00 fee paperwork processing fee?How long did it take you to work out the paperwork and fees on your home mortgage!!??...Good Grief!
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Re: Questions on an '08 Saab 9-3 2.0T Lease Deal [saablcp] by british_rover
Dec 16, 2007 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: saablcp (Dec 15, 2007 7:48 am)

45 dollars is nothing for a doc fee. Drive over to CT sometime and it is unlikely you will find a doc fee of less then 300 dollars for premium brands and in some cases the doc fee is over 500 dollars.
 
Also in NY I don't think they charge sales tax on the doc fee so that helps too.
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Changes in Saab 9-3 lease pricing? by dgebler
Feb 18, 2008 (7:54 pm)
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Thanks to all who provided such great information in December. I am looking to lease a 9-3 2.0T with the Premium Pkg + Moonroof, AT, etc.
 
Dealer quoted $423 per month for 27 months at 12,000 per year. based on earlier discussion of Residual Value for 27 months at 69% and MF at 4.35%, this lease amount seems high.
 
Does anyone have recent experience to share. Thanks
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Re: Changes in Saab 9-3 lease pricing? [dgebler] by heathmac
Feb 23, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: dgebler (Feb 18, 2008 7:54 pm)

Hi Dgebler - I am just starting the process of leasing another Saab 9-3 and this what a deal gave me over email without any negoiations:
 
This is for a metallic paint 93 sedan 2.0T with sunroof and cold weather package and manual transmission.
  
MSRP 30 685
 
With $ 3000 down
$ 0 security deposit
$ 500 lease loyalty rebate
27 month lease 12 000 miles per year
Payment $ 374 per month
Includes Maine state tax
Includes $ 24 title fee
Includes $ 595 bank acquisition fee
Includes $ 278 documentation fee
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Lease Deal by heathmac
Feb 23, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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What do you think of this deal?
 
Metallic paint, 2008 93 sedan 2.0T cold weather package, Moonroof and navigation.
  
MSRP $ 33 270
Sale price $ 31 921
With $ 3000 down
$ 0 security deposit
$ 500 lease loyalty rebate
36 month lease 12 000 miles per year
Payment $ 407.96 per month
The money due at signing includes your 1st months payment
Includes costs for swapping the vehicle in for a max of $ 250 miles
Includes Maine state tax
Includes $ 24 title fee
Includes $ 595 bank acquisition fee
Includes $ 278 documentation fee
Residual 58 %
Interest rate 5.35%
Residual $ 19,296.60
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Lease Deal in Boston by dgebler
Feb 24, 2008 (10:50 pm)
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Replying to: heathmac (Feb 23, 2008 1:18 pm)

A local dealer quoted me $423 per month for 27 months at 12K per year with $0 cap reduction and a drive away payment of $423.
 
This is for a 2.0T AT with premium, moonroof and winter packages but w/o navi
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Re: Lease Deal in Boston [dgebler] by heathmac
Feb 25, 2008 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: dgebler (Feb 24, 2008 10:50 pm)

That is a much better deal than I was getting. I was speaking with one dealer today and asked them why he was quoting me an APR of 5.35% and he never returned my voice mail.
 
My problem is that none of the dealerships have the car that I want and have to find a dealer that does. I am thinking about just driving down to Mass considering it is only an hour and half from where I live and deal with that deal directly.
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MF and RES on a 9-3 2.0T Convertible by ironhead1980
Feb 26, 2008 (6:28 pm)
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Can anyone tell me the MF and RES value for the month of Feb. on a 9-3 Conv.
standard?
 
Dealership gave me a 65% RES, which I think it's too high and a MF of .003 (7.20% way too high)
 
39 mo
12k miles
 
I'll appreciate the info as I need to make the deal by Saturday (1,000.00 cash back ends in FL)
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Verification of lease payment on 9-3 by cdutch
Mar 10, 2008 (4:35 pm)
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CarMan,
 
Thanks for all you do here. I'd appreciate your thoughts on a lease I was offered for a Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan with a 27 month term and 12,000 miles per year. Options include, cold package, 17" alloy wheels, and moonroof package.
 
Vehicle Price: $31,273 (includes $500 rebate and $595 acquisiton fee rolled in)
Residual Value $22,242,15
Lease Rate: 4.35%
Monthly base payment: $459.63
After 6% Michigan Sales Tax: $459.63
Upfront fees include a doc fee of $75 (which I plan to try to negotiate out), $15 title fee, $8 for plates, and $34.50 in taxes.
 
For some reason, this seems a bit high and it includes GM supplier discount. If I don't roll the aqcuistion fee, my guess is the payment drops by about $30 per month. Still, it seems a bit high.
 
Am I missing something?

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