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#282 of 530 Re: No more leasing SAAB's not even with my GM Employee Discount [saablcp] by matrsoskin Feb 22, 2007 (6:00 pm)
Replying to: saablcp (Feb 22, 2007 12:37 pm) "I don't mean this as a flame"...Yes, you do, saablcp!   andygrv has told us the story about his personal experience with the SAAB lease and dealership in California, not in Pennsylvania. If you like your local SAAB dealers-good for you! The fellow in California was not trying to convince you otherwise.   Yet, having four recalls on a car is not OK, not these days.   Do not jump on this fellow because of a misprint and call him semi-literate. BTW, it is ether literate or illiterate, the same as a fish quility: there is no second grade freshness.   "...some of the criticisms you are applying universally" - do not put words in someone's mouth. Our personal experience is what we, most of the time, make our conclusions and decisions. andygrv has decided for him/herself not to deal anymore with SAAB based on his personal experience in California. If one to extrapolate your logic, he should not have come to such conclusion before spending some time in your area, where SAAB dealers are good. Then what, he/she will have to move in permanently? I do not think so.   We stay where we like, we buy cars, and if we are not happy with them, we get rid of them and buy the better ones.   Perception of a car quality is based upon opinions of individual owners. If particular owner feels that his/her car is just a moving nuisance, nothing could change that.   So, enjoy your SAAB and let others to express freely their opinions.    Matroskin Replies to this message: saablcp (Feb 23, 2007 9:00 am)
#283 of 530 Re: No more leasing SAAB's not even with my GM Employee Discount [matrsoskin] by saablcp Feb 23, 2007 (9:00 am)
Replying to: matrsoskin (Feb 22, 2007 6:00 pm) I said semi-literate and that is what I meant...part of being taken credibly when you complain is staying on point and expressing yourself intelligently enough to be given some credence. The criticisms he expressed in "general terms",none of which you addressed, were having to pay a disposition fee(not unique to Saab)not getting more than 25,000 miles on his brakes(not unique to Saab),not getting 45,000 miles on his Pirelli speed rated/performance tires(not unique to Saab or any sport sedan with speed rated performance tires)and the high cost of replacing the brakes(once again not unique to Saab).The only criticism he made which was valid, in that it applied solely to his experience, were the dealer service related issues.The other reasons for never getting a Saab again should not be argued as being unique to Saab,as I pointed out.I still think his expectations will be better met and he will ultimately be happier with a Saturn,as would be true also of a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord.
#284 of 530 GMS Pricing on a 9-3 by dtdandl Feb 23, 2007 (9:30 am)
Good Morning:   I just received a lease offer on a 60th Anniv 9-3 2.0LTurbo...   12,000 miles 27 months $401 inception $32,920 sticker GMS pricing $352 per month   Is anything negotiable on a GMS lease? Or is it take it or leave it. Also, what is the base rate that you speak of and how does it come into play? Thank you. Replies to this message: saablcp (Feb 25, 2007 12:12 pm) Car_man (Mar 20, 2007 2:59 am)
#285 of 530 Re: GMS Pricing on a 9-3 [dtdandl] by saablcp Feb 25, 2007 (12:12 pm)
Replying to: dtdandl (Feb 23, 2007 9:30 am) The GMS employee pricing is a non-negotiable price.Every dealer invoice will have the GMS price clearly printed on the bottom left portion of the invoice and your Authorization document will ask you to sign off on the fact that it was disclosed to you.This is a closely audited program which only has value if it is monitored and adhered to by the dealers.The dealer is,however, allowed to mark up the lease finance rate as much as a point above the base rate.
#286 of 530 Reasonabe Deal, SAAB 9-3 2.0t by bill_saab Feb 26, 2007 (10:23 am)
hi car_man,   I have a question about leasing a 2007 saab 9-3 2.0t. This is my first time leasing so I want to make sure I'm not getting taken advantage of:   MSRP: $28,015 $259/month, 27 months, 10,000 miles a year $2129 due at signing, plus taxes   This is a "special" they are running. Is there a way to not put $2129 down plus taxes? I'd like the payment to not go over $300/month. Is this possible, or am I dreaming?   I'd apreciate any help you can provide.   Thanks so much! Replies to this message: dtdandl (Feb 27, 2007 6:10 am) Car_man (Mar 20, 2007 3:10 am)
#287 of 530 Re: Reasonabe Deal, SAAB 9-3 2.0t [bill_saab] by dtdandl Feb 27, 2007 (6:10 am)
Replying to: bill_saab (Feb 26, 2007 10:23 am) The lowest I've seen for 10,000 miles is $328 a month for a 60th anniv special (there is a $1000 cash back offer on it). You'll be hard pressed to get a 9.3 for under $330 a month.   If you are leasing, why put anything down on it? $2129 divided by 27 months is $79/month. Total price is $338/month.   Don't forget, they offer early lease turn in. Sometimes 2-3 months early. So why make the downpayment? Don't throw money away. Keep it in your pocket, not his.   Wait em' out and let them come to you.
#288 of 530 SAAB scheduled maintenance by andygrv Feb 27, 2007 (3:26 pm)
Saablcp, I may be illiterate but I am bright enough to understand what a real scheduled maintenance means and you should check out BMW 's site for it. link title   Don’t get confused with what SAAB sells as scheduled maintenance. BMW covers the brakes for 50,000 miles and they don't charge $1000 (front and rear) for a brake job at 25,000 miles nor does BMW ask you to replace all the tires when you return the car.   I am not trying to bash SAAB but I just want future buyers to know that there are other hidden costs when you lease a SAAB and there are other car companies like BMW that covers them. And that is the exact reason why BMW is still independent and not bought over by GM or Ford.   I am just trying to warn the buyers that in your 45,000 mile lease cost of leasing make sure you add $1000 for a brake job and a set a of tires plus a $350 recovery fees.   Saablcp You can use your PHD and read what BMW has to say about schedules maintanance. We cover all factory-recommended maintenance at no charge for four years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first, as well as items that need replacement due to regular wear and tear.   Your maintenance costs: • Scheduled inspections: $0 • Brake Pads: $0 • Brake Rotors: $0 • Engine Belts: $0 • Oil Changes: $0 • Wiper Blade Inserts: $0 • Inspections: $0 • Fluid Services: $0   By offering such a comprehensive maintenance program with every new vehicle, we are able to help you manage the cost of ownership and keep maintenance costs down.   And since all services are done at an authorized BMW center, by a BMW certified technician who has been specially trained by us, we can guarantee that only original BMW parts will be used. In other words, your BMW will be maintained by our standards, which are, admittedly, higher than most.   Also BMW and Lexus actually gives a BMW or Lexus as replacement vehicle when your car is in the shop. Replies to this message: dhanley (Feb 27, 2007 3:37 pm) saablcp (Feb 27, 2007 3:40 pm) dhanley (Mar 03, 2007 1:44 pm)
#289 of 530 Re: SAAB scheduled maintenance [andygrv] by dhanley Feb 27, 2007 (3:37 pm)
Replying to: andygrv (Feb 27, 2007 3:26 pm) Andy.   First of all, let me point out that i am a huge BMW fan, own one, and will most probably buy a 335i sometime soon.   BMW's scheduled maintenence is one year longer than saab's and they cover brakes. But bear in mind a similar BMW may be several thousand more than a similar saab in a lease deal, or 5-10K more purchased. That will cover an extra brake job and 1 year of maintenence quite easily. On a BMW you will also most likely need to buy tires over the course of a 45K lease, and they have lease end fees as well--everyone does. BMW brakes may cost more or less than saab ones depending on where you go. Even brakes on a chevy can set you back. That's life.   Secondly, there is a lot of variance between dealers. My old saab dealer did give saabs as loaner cars. All my bmw dealers have as well, but i do know of bmw dealers that do not.
#290 of 530 Re: SAAB scheduled maintenance [andygrv] by saablcp Feb 27, 2007 (3:40 pm)
Replying to: andygrv (Feb 27, 2007 3:26 pm) And of course that comprehensive free scheduled maintenance is in fact totally free and the fact that the average comparably equipped BMW has an MSRP that is higher than any of it's direct competitors has no bearing on this...right?. Cosmic law of the universe,Bucko....."There's no such thing as a "free" lunch".And you still have apparently not researched what the lease end disposition fees are on the other cars in the market place. Replies to this message: dhanley (Mar 03, 2007 1:44 pm)
#291 of 530 Re: SAAB scheduled maintenance [saablcp] by dhanley Mar 03, 2007 (1:44 pm)
Replying to: saablcp (Feb 27, 2007 3:40 pm) >and the fact that the average comparably equipped BMW has an MSRP that is higher than any of it's direct competitors has no bearing on this...right?   Hm. That's a *little* bit of a stretch. Mercedes is certianly a direct competitior, and in some contexts more expensive companies like porsche and maserati are (m5 versus quatroporte?).   Strictly speaking, saab and BMW are not competitiors, so it's hard really compare their cost/benefit. When i think of competitors for saab, i think acura and maybe even subaru.

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