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Porsche Cayenne Lease Questions

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Jan Lease Factors by mdenneny
Jan 24, 2008 (8:18 pm)
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Dear Porsche Experts:
I am considering purchasing a Cayenne Turbo for 118,000 24mos 12k/mi year
Residual is 57% and MF .00370. This MF seems rather high compared to the other MF's you have mentioned above, has Porsche changed their numbers since Decembe or is this accurate??
 
I look forward to your help and support.......
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Re: lease question [sphereman111] by Car_man HOST
Feb 04, 2008 (2:12 am)
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Replying to: sphereman111 (Dec 13, 2007 6:26 pm)

Here's the information that you're looking for, sphereman111. Porsche Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2008 Cayenne V6 with 12,000 miles per year are .00290 and 61%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00290 and 60%. If you were to lease this truck with only 12,000 miles per year, its residual values would be 2% higher.
 
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Re: Jan Lease Factors [mdenneny] by Car_man HOST
Feb 04, 2008 (2:14 am)
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Replying to: mdenneny (Jan 24, 2008 8:18 pm)

Greetings mdenneny. The money factor that you were quoted is higher than Porsche Credit's buy rate. This probably means that the dealer you are working with is trying to mark up your truck's money factor to add additional hidden, back-end profit to your deal. See if you can get them to use the .00290 buy rate to calculate your lease payment.
 
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How to factor in acquisition costs by cal4492
Feb 15, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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Car_man,
First this is a really helpful web site!
Second I am looking to lease a Cayanne and these are the numbers I have been quoted in NY/NJ area:
MSRP $54,715
CapCost $52,000
Residual 67%
LeaseTerm 36 mos
Factor 0.00325
Mothly Payment $781
 
I put this through the caculation and came up with a monthly pymnt of $714!
They did say there were closing costs of approx $2200. Is this a good deal?
Seems like they are adding the closing costs to the CapCost and then calculating the lease pymnt. Is this the way to incorporate the closing costs into the calc?
Please help...
Rgds,
Cal
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Re: How to factor in acquisition costs [cal4492] by eights38
Feb 15, 2008 (9:45 pm)
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Replying to: cal4492 (Feb 15, 2008 5:52 pm)

cal4492 - What dealer in the NYC metro area are you working with? If you need help, please feel free to email me.
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Re: How to factor in acquisition costs [cal4492] by plamp
Feb 21, 2008 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: cal4492 (Feb 15, 2008 5:52 pm)

Cal
 
I'm in the area also and would also like to know what dealer you are using. Are you sure of the residual you were quoted at of 67%?
 
Thanks!
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holly'sdad by hollydog
Feb 27, 2008 (12:26 pm)
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dealer in mid-west proposed the following:
V6 tiptronic with nav, bi-xenon lights, etc with msrp of $56,650 plus destination charge of $895.
Selling price of $52,900. $3,650 down includes 1st month payment and all fees and cap cost reduction. 15,000 miles per year. residual of 38%. 63 month lease at $618 plus tax per month ($659). I wanted payment around $650 per month.
Top tier credit rating.
Does this seem like a good deal?
Thanks for your insight.
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Re: How to factor in acquisition costs [cal4492] by Car_man HOST
Mar 13, 2008 (2:20 am)
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Replying to: cal4492 (Feb 15, 2008 5:52 pm)

Thanks Cal. I'm glad that you find Edmunds.com so helpful. I come up with a pre-tax payment of $714 as well using the inputs that you mentioned in your post. Perhaps the payment that the dealer quoted you includes sales tax or some other charges. This lease program is much different that Porsche Credit's program, but it seems to result in a lower monthly payment than Porsche's. I guess some independent bank is stepping up to the plate and offering a better program than Porsche Credit on the Cayenne right now. I am not personally all that familiar with what the market is like for this truck in your area right now, but I do know that there is a decent level of competition there. It wouldn't hurt to comparison shop with a few dealers before pulling the trigger.
 
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Re: holly'sdad [hollydog] by Car_man HOST
Mar 13, 2008 (2:29 am)
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Replying to: hollydog (Feb 27, 2008 12:26 pm)

Hi hollydog. 63 months is an awful long time to lease a vehicle. A lot can happen over the course of five years to make you want or need to get a new vehicle, your commute could change causing you to go waaaay over your mileage allowance, the price of gas could spike to $5.00 per gallon in the U.S. making you want to get something more fuel efficient, you could just plain get sick of your vehicle, etc... I always advise consumers not to lease for longer than 36 to 39 months, 48 months at the absolute longest.
 
Another thing that I don't like about this lease is that you are making a capitalized cost reduction. I always advise community members not to make down payments on leased vehicles. Those who make them risk losing part or all of them if their car or truck is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered. You would be better off going with a zero down lease, even though it means that your monthly payment will be slightly higher.
 
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Holly's dad (Hollydog) by hollydog
Mar 13, 2008 (6:49 am)
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Car_Man
Thanks for the advise. My lease had to be 4 or 5 years (the 63 months was Ok) as it is a work provided vehicle and my arrangement at work calls for that structure. I also got an extended warranty (not part of the lease) provided by my employer. I was required to keep the total monthly payments very close to $650 and was told by several Porsche dealers that I could not get this vehicle unless the lease was 60 - 63 months. I was entitled to a downpayment of $3,000 plus the first payment. Given all of this, did I get a good deal from the Porsche dealer on price and monthly payments.
Thanks very much.

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