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Porsche Boxster Lease Questions

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Re: Boxster Money Factor and Residuals for lease by Car_man HOST
Sep 28, 2005 (4:11 am)
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Excellent user id, martini4me . Yes, I have seen Porsche Credit's current lease program for the 2005 and 2006 Boxster. As usual, Porsche is not providing any sort of money factor support on this car. As a result, if you were to lease one through Porsche Credit right now you would have to use its standard lease money factors. Its buy rate standard money factor for a 36 month lease is .00270 through the end of October. It is difficult to say what its money factors will be like after that date. I am not sure if Porsche allows consumers who order vehicles to lock in their lease program at the time that the order was placed. I am sure that your dealer will know the answer to this question.
 
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Re: Boxster Money Factor and Residuals for lease [Car_man] by davezaristo
Oct 06, 2005 (12:27 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Sep 28, 2005 4:11 am)

Hi,
 
I have a question regarding leasing as well. I am looking to purchase a 05 Boxster due to the fact that the dealers in my area are offering $5,000 off msrp. I am planning to negotiate even more, perhaps $6-7000 off and would like to know how much my month leasing payment would be. The msrp of the car including destination charge is about $49,500, so with the discount, let's say $6000 off would be $43,500. I am planning to put no down, do a 3yr and 12k miles/yr lease, and my sales tax is 8.25%. If you can help me come up with some figure on how much it will cost me, that would be greatly appreciated. I have always pay cash for my cars and this is the first time I am considering leasing. Thanks!!
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Re: Re: Boxster Money Factor and Residuals for lease by Car_man HOST
Oct 12, 2005 (4:27 am)
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Hi davezaristo. I would be happy to give you an idea of what your lease payment should be like on the car that you are interested in right now. If you were to lease a 2005 Porsche Boxster (not the S model and without Tiptronic) with an MSRP of $49,500 and a selling price of $43,500 through Porsche Credit right now for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment should be around $656.
 
By the way, since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
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Re: Re: Boxster Money Factor and Residuals for lease [Car_man] by davezaristo
Oct 12, 2005 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 12, 2005 4:27 am)

Thanks for your help. Besides msrp, is there anything else I should negotiate? Money factor, residual value, etc.?? I know it is different across different car makers (most are set and not negotiable i heard ), but I am not too familiar on how porsche works so i thought i may ask.
 
Also, what is your view on lump sum lease? My credit card is providing me a great rate of 1.99%APR for the lifetime of the loan and I was thinking about taking advantage of that. Will I still be able to write off those lease payments for tax purposes? On a lump sum or monthly basis? (I know i may need to ask my accountant but thought that you may know so i'll just ask here)
 
Finally, does zero down means all DMV fees and doc fees are built into the lease payments already?
 
I am asking alot of questions, but I am unable to find the answers in ordinary leasing guidelines so i hope that you can shed some light. Again, thank you so much for your help!!
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48-Month Lease Money Factor by martini4me
Oct 19, 2005 (1:18 pm)
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Hey Car Man: Thanks for the money factor info for 36 month lease. Do you also have info on residual % and money factor for 48 month lease in the 2005/2006 Boxster. I plan to get a tiptronic and will probably lease for 48 months / 12000mis/yr, since the car should be under warranty for the full leasing period. Thanks for the info...sorry to be a pest!! Cheers!
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CarMan...One more thing :-) by martini4me
Oct 19, 2005 (1:25 pm)
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do you know anything about Porsche Options financing?....looks like it's $100 cheaper per month than a lease, but with a balloon payment (their website indicates that balloon payment only due if car not returned to dealer). Maybe residuals are different? I'll ask a dealer for info too, but wanted to see if you had any words of wisdom. Many thanks!
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'05 Boxster Lease by jerseyguy1
Oct 19, 2005 (1:26 pm)
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Local dealer is offering invoice pricing on all remaining '05 Boxsters in stock. The one I am looking at has a $53,795 (including freight) MSRP. They will sell it for $46,998.
 
Assuming a 3 year, no money down, no cap cost reduction, 10,000 miles per year lease, what is your best guess as to monthly lease payments.
 
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Re: Re: Re: Boxster Money Factor and Residuals for lease by Car_man HOST
Oct 23, 2005 (5:13 am)
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You're welcome davezaristo. Besides making sure that you are getting an attractive selling price on your car, the other main negotiable item that you need to pay attention to is the money factor that is used to calculate its monthly lease payment. This item is only quasi negotiable though because dealers cannot lease vehicles using lower money factors than banks allow them to, but they can mark-up banks' buy rate money factors to add additional back-end profit to deals. Find out the buy rate money factor for the car that you are interested in and make sure that it is being used to calculate the lease payment that you are quoted. Vehicles' residual values are never negotiable so you don't have to worry about that aspect of your deal.
 
Advance Pay or One Pay leases can be a good way to get a new vehicle, IF the discount in the money factor that is used to calculate the interest portion of your lump sum payment is attractive enough and if you have the liquid assets to make all of your vehicle's payments at one time. I'm not an accountant, so I really cannot comment on the tax implications of a single payment lease.
 
When I say zero down, I mean zero capitalized cost reduction. Even consumers who opt not to make a cap cost reduction have to pay money at lease signing. At lease signing lessees usually have to pay their vehicle's first month's payment, a security deposit equivalent to that payment rounded up to the nearest $25 or $50 increment, the acquisition fee that the bank that they are leasing through charges, and any required state taxes or fees. Many banks will waive their security deposit requirement in exchange for a slight increase in the money factor that is used to calculate a vehicle's lease payment. Also, lessees can usually roll the acquisition fee and any state taxes or fees into their vehicle's capitalized cost and finance them in their lease if they want to. So, you should be able to drive away in a leased vehicle only paying your first payment if you want to.
 
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Re: 48-Month Lease Money Factor by Car_man HOST
Oct 23, 2005 (5:16 am)
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No problem martini4me. If you were to lease a 2005 Porsche Boxster with Tiptronic through Porsche Credit right now for 48 months with 12,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00280 and 42%, respectively. The money factor for an otherwise identical lease of a 2006 Boxster with Tiptronic would be the same, but the residual value would be 47%.
 
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Re: CarMan...One more thing :-) by Car_man HOST
Oct 23, 2005 (5:18 am)
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Martini4me, given the fact that balloon notes are much less popular than leases, I do not personally keep tabs on the details of manufacturers' balloon note programs. Sorry.
 
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