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Re: Fees Fees Everywhere!!! [leepoffaith] by Car_man HOST
Jan 22, 2009 (3:13 am)
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Replying to: leepoffaith (Jan 13, 2009 1:16 pm)

Hi leepoffaith. Nissan Motor Acceptance Corp. charges a $595 acquisition fee on every vehicle that it leases. All consumers have to pay this charge. You can either pay it at lease signing or roll it into your car's capitalized cost to make it part of your monthly payment.
 
As you seem to already be aware, the whopping $600 doc fee is completely bogus. It really isn't anything more than a way for the dealer to add additional profit to your deal. If I was in the market for an '09 Altima and the dealer was charging such a heft doc fee I would make sure that I was being charged a selling price that is right at, or better yet under dealer invoice. If not, then I would take my business elsewhere.
 
I'm not sure what the rental surcharge fee is. If you ask the dealer, let us know what you find out.
 
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Re: New Altima Money Factor and Residuals [polyvw] by Car_man HOST
Jan 22, 2009 (3:20 am)
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Replying to: polyvw (Jan 15, 2009 8:42 pm)

Here's the info that you're looking for, polyvw. NMAC's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Altima 3.5 SL Sedan with 15,000 miles per year are .00158 and 58%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 39 month lease are .00158 and 57%.
 
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Re: '09 Altima 2.5 S lease deals [tasteckler] by Car_man HOST
Jan 22, 2009 (3:32 am)
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Replying to: tasteckler (Jan 18, 2009 1:51 pm)

Hi tasteckler. The best way to evaluate this deal is to look at the selling price that it is based upon. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. Without knowing what this number is in relation to either this car's MSRP or dealer invoice price, it is difficult to tell how good a deal this is. Find out what selling price the dealer us using and let us know. I am sure that either myself or another knowledgeable community member will be happy to give you their opinion of these deals.
 
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Re: New Altima Money Factor and Residuals [Car_man] by cmyawn
Jan 22, 2009 (4:43 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 22, 2009 3:01 am)

Thanks Car_man. My status is that I am discussing this with a number of dealers and the one that is most eager for my business (though 150 miles away) seems a whopping $776 UNDER invoice for a new 2009 2.5S Altima lease for a car with both convenience, connection, SL, CVT, mats, and splashguards. MSRP = $27395. That is for a car in-stock but he SAYS he will get one in the color combo I desire, same deal. He also says he will cut his exorbitant $599 total doc and tags fees to $210 to "make my last Maxima payment". The only other up-front would be my first payment. I have 2 other dealers under invoice by about $200 and $400 as well, for OK color combos they have in-stock, with higher up-front fees. I can tell you I have searched the on-line inventory of about 75 dealers within 300 miles to find the color combos I want, and there are only 5 in-stock that would work. I have found that most dealers are MUCH more eager to deal on in-stock units.
 
I have asked my best-offer dealer to see what it takes to add the moonroof wind deflector and dealer-installed fog lights and to get my color combo for me. I really want to wait till February incentives come out (seems like there is always a "Presidents Day Sale") BUT I have concerns that in February the money factor will be the same but the residual will drop a percentage point. Looking at some past history this looks likely, which will cost me an extra $7 a month or so. So I may pull the trigger on the deal on February 2 when the current incentives are due to expire and just have an extra car till February 21, when my Maxima has to be turned in. If anything, that will make me way under-mileage for the first month of the Altima and give me some extra miles to use later. Of course, there are a few expenses (property taxes, insurance, etc) with having an extra car for 19 days), but they are relatively minor.
 
One other thing, NMAC offered the $500 damage allowance which I do not need since I took such good care of the Maxima. I queried the NMAC rep on the phone doggedly trying to get them to give me that $500 toward the acquisition fee. His mantra over and over was that "any offers would be handled by the dealer". A couple of dealers have hinted that there may be hidden incentives that Nissan or NMAC pass on to the dealer in order to retain a loyal customer, and that some dealers have extra Nissan incentives due to hitting or needing to hit certain sales targets. Some dealers say they cannot touch the $776 under invoice deal and they think the best-offer dealer is getting/using some of those incentives.
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Re: '09 Altima 2.5 S lease deals [Car_man] by tasteckler
Jan 23, 2009 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 22, 2009 3:32 am)

Car_man,
 
The deals breakdown as follows: (both deals are now 1st payment due at signing)
 
2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 S
MSRP = $22,410
selling price = $20,707
Residual Value is 59% or $13,221.90
money factor is 0.001580 = 3.7%
39 months
12k per year
$277.32 + tax
  
2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 S with Convenience Package
MSRP = $23,595
selling price = $21,696,
39 months,
12k per year
Residual value is 59% or $13,921.05
money factor 0.001580 = 3.7%
$287.41 + Tax
  
How do these deals look? Thanks in advance.
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New here...09 Altima Sedan 2.5 S CVT by Newport5003
Jan 27, 2009 (6:32 pm)
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I'm new to the forums here at edmunds.com... and stumbled across this thread when googling Altima lease prices.
 
I was wondering what I should expect to pay for a 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 S CVT (sedan) with an MSRP of $22,545 and a selling price of $18,936.
 
I need 15k miles a year, and either a 36 or 39 month lease since I know the 24 month Nissan leases are out of the question.
 
Thanks
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CT quote by lotuspeddler
Jan 28, 2009 (6:00 am)
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Have a quote from a S.W. Connecticut dealer, seems to be the best so far based on the .00158 MF, 58% resid . for an '09 Altima 2.5 S w/ Convenience and Connection pkgs only:
 
$319/mo, first month only down
39 mo/12k per yr.
 
But what is the current status on these disp fees, etc.?
 
Thanks, Car_man.
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I'm at the end of my 2007 Altima lease- what's next? by mirm
Jan 30, 2009 (6:38 pm)
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Hi,
My 24 month 2007 Altima lease is up in March (15k miles per year). I have the 4dr SL with convenience package. I love this car and am considering going into another lease but I want to lower my payments which are currently $307 per month through NMAC.
What do I do when I'm at the end of a lease? I'm willing to go into a 36 or 39 month lease if it makes my payments lower and I'd love to do this with no money down. I don't know how to/never have negotiated before.
I'm in the Buffalo, NY area if this helps.
Thanks in advance!
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New Altima in the Driveway by cmyawn
Jan 31, 2009 (6:58 am)
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We live just north of Wilmington, NC, and just took delivery last night of our new 2009 Altima. The details:
 
2009 Altima S Sedan w/ SL, CVT, both convenience packages, connection package, splashguards, and carpet/trunk mats. MSRP = $27,395 including delivery/destination charges. Invoice = $25,398. Navy blue w/ blonde leather.
 
The final deal we took was from Dick Smith Nissan in Columbia, SC...which is 241 miles from our house. They started at $25,999 but quickly dropped that to $24,999 ($399 under invoice) as they knew I was looking at a lot of other dealers. Their fees were low compared to other dealers in the NC/SC area: $288 for doc plus $51 for SC temp tag/title fees. BUT because I live in NC, I would have to cover the NC inspection and NC tag fees (I think dealerships closer to the state line do this all the time but since they are in central SC, it was a new thing for them), which will total $98 (for new tags) or $85 (if I switch the tag from my soon-to-be off-lease Maxima).
 
Then things got really interesting. We really wanted fog lights and a moon roof wind deflector added to the car. We really wanted fog lights since we live in a coastal area, many foggy mornings around here. MRWD was easy. BUT the add-on Nissan fog lights were a trouble. I had two other dealers quote $580 to $630 to have them installed.
 
The net is that the GM at Dick Smith Nissan added $489 into the lease price to cover the fog lights and MRWD. BUT he also cut his doc/SC temp tag fees from $339 total to ...FIVE DOLLARS. I was amazed.
 
So the paperwork shows that the sales price is $25,488, but we paid just $5 in fees to the dealership, so I think I came out ahead. The $595 acquisition fee is buried in the lease. I will still have to personally pay $30 to have the car NC safety/emissions tested and probably $55 for title/tag transfer fees to NC.
 
Amazingly they delivered the car as part of the deal on a flat bed car-hauler to my house (241 miles each way!). And even more amazingly, they did so with no up-front credit card or any other payment, just took some info over the phone and got my NMAC pre-approval numbers. The car was delivered last night, 65 miles on the odometer, full tank of gas, 30 day temp tag in place, dealer decals removed, all manuals included, 2 key fobs, fog lights and MRWD installed, clean and perfect. Wrote the delivery driver a check for $350 (first payment and $5 in fees), signed some paperwork, and I have a new Altima in my driveway.
 
Payment is $345.17, which is $335.13 for the lease and $10.04 in NC tax. 36 month lease, 12,000 miles/year. Money factor = .00158, Residual = 60%.
 
Some will critique us for doing a lease instead of taking the $1500 rebate and buying. But around here with the salt air, vehicles just do not last...so the 3-year lease all within warranty is a good way to go. And I took this lease 3 weeks before my Maxima comes off-lease. I was concerned that the February incentives would be worse (especially the residuals, seems like thry go down as we get closer to the new model year), but who knows what Nissan and NMAC will offer in February? So we went for it, this will make us way under-milegae for the first month in the Altima.
 
I was very pleased with the whole experience. I did have two other dealerships that seemed to want to deal: Pinehurst Nissan had the very best pricing (typically $600-$750 under invoice) that I could find, and seemed to want to really deal (said they would make my last Maxima payment!). But they did not have a car in the color we wanted (red or blue w/ blonde leather), and they sometimes would "forget" things they had committed to me. They did have a black/blonde 2009 Altima w/ technology package that had factory fog lights, and if they held up to what they said they would do it would only have been about $5 a month more than the blue Altima we leased in an equivalent deal, with reduced fees to "make my last Maxima payment". But our 2007 Maxima SE is black and we wanted a change. Plus w/ the technology package the silver CD changer looks like an ugly afterthought centered in the woodgrain on the console. Looks better with the silver trim, which you get w/ the charcoal seats (but those are too hot in the summer).
 
Also Deacon Jones Nissan in Goldsboro was very willing to deal, $500 under invoice. We were set on a red one there ($1500 total up-front, $309 a month...nets out to about $342 a month total) but fog lights killed the deal, they said it would add about another $17 a month. They wanted $630 to install them and their $499!! doc fee was outrageous. They said they were "all-in" but once we had the deal on the blue one they offered to match the deal, and increase the monthly payment by just $4. But they were good to work with.
 
I want to thank all the contributors (especially Car_man) for the help on this forum. And advice: The color combos we wanted were very rare, I searched the Nissan site for inventory at every dealer within 300 miles and there were just 4 red or blue w/ blonde leather and at least both convenience and connection packages. Dealers were much more interested in dealing for their on-the-lot stock. My advice is, use the web to find the dealers that have your exact color/option combos, and play those dealers against each other. They will all ask "when are you going to come in"...just insist that you are going to do this by phone and email (mainly email). And they just about ALL said they would deliver.
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New Altima Lease Numbers? by psychoboy
Feb 04, 2009 (5:03 pm)
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car_man,
 
Would you happen to have the current NMAC residual and money factors for a 24 month lease on a 2.5S, 15k miles per year? TIA!!

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