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MINI Cooper Lease Questions

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Mini Cooper Lease Question by megirn
Jan 20, 2009 (7:42 am)
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I am considering a lease offer for a 2009 Mini Cooper (MSRP $20,450.) for $199. It is for 36 months, 10,000 miles/year, plus tax, tag, title and dealer pre-delivery service fee of $599.95. $2,500. due at lease signing. Does this sound like a good deal? Any questions we need to ask them? Thank you for your assistance.
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Re: mini select [mgm11937] by Car_man HOST
Jan 21, 2009 (3:11 am)
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Replying to: mgm11937 (Jan 06, 2009 4:05 pm)

Hi mgm11937. I believe that BMW's money factors for Mini vary by region. They should generally be around .00230 to .00280 though. Its residual values fore Mini are the same nationwide. The 36 month, 15,000 mile peer year residual value for a 2009 Mini Cooper S Hatchback is currently 64%.
 
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Re: 2009 Mini Cooper Lease [toky] by Car_man HOST
Jan 21, 2009 (3:31 am)
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Replying to: toky (Jan 10, 2009 4:56 pm)

Hi toky. Despite the implosion in the auto industry, Mini sales have held up fairly well. If I was in the market for a base Mini Cooper right now I personally would shoot for a dealer discount of around $1,000.
 
BMW's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a base 2009 Mini Cooper with 12,000 miles per year should be around .00240 and 69%, respectively (man, what an amazing resid).
 
I see that you are considering making a $1,999 down payment on this car. It is in your best interest not to make any capitalized cost reduction when leasing. I always advise consumers not to do so because if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered, there is a good chance that any cap cost reduction that was paid will disappear.
 
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Re: Mini Coopers S Lease Question-HELP [jorgedbernal] by Car_man HOST
Jan 21, 2009 (3:37 am)
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Replying to: jorgedbernal (Jan 17, 2009 4:23 pm)

Hi jorgedbernal. The selling price that you were quoted for this car looks good to me, but you may be able to shave another couple hundred dollars off. The money factor looks slightly high, but it varies by region so I don't know what the exact number should be in your neck of the woods. The dealer is likely marking it up a little. If you have the time, it wouldn't hurt to get a quote from another dealer or two to see what sort of money factor they quote you.
 
Obviously, the $342 payment is a lot more attractive than the $372 payment that you were initially quoted. You should find out what selling price and money factor were used to arrive at the new deal.
 
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Re: Mini Cooper Lease Question [megirn] by Car_man HOST
Jan 21, 2009 (3:41 am)
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Replying to: megirn (Jan 20, 2009 7:42 am)

HI megirn. The best way to evaluate whether this is a good deal is to look at the selling price that this lease is based upon and the money factor that was used to calculate the monthly payment. These are the two main profit centers for dealers on leases. Let us know what these numbers are and I'm sure that either myself or another helpful community member will be glad to give you their opinion.
 
One thing that I noticed about this deal is the large amount of money that is due at lease signing. I always advise consumers not to make any capitalized cost reduction when leasing. Those who make them risk losing part or all of them if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered. Even though it means that your monthly payment will be slightly higher, you will be better off going with a zero down lease.
 
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Re: mini select [Car_man] by megirn
Jan 21, 2009 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 21, 2009 3:11 am)

Are fees for dealer doc. fee ($600.), battery, tires, doc stamps (218.), security (225.), up front taxes (253.) normal fees or just profit for this particular dealership?
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Re: 2009 Mini Cooper Lease [Car_man] by toky
Jan 21, 2009 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 21, 2009 3:31 am)

The dealership was giving a hard time going lower than 0.0029 MF. Credit score is 770.
 
They started at MF of 0.0031 and came down to 0.0029. I think he said something about the dealer buys the money at 0.0025.
 
Doc fees of $395 and registration fee of $200.
 
Would the MF be different for Cooper S rather than a non-S? And if so, what should it be for a Cooper S?
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Re: Mini Coopers S Lease Question-HELP [Car_man] by isell188
Jan 30, 2009 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 21, 2009 3:37 am)

where did he get such a discount? I am currently looking at getting a Mini Cooper S that has a sticker price of $27,450 but they are only knocking off 1,000 on it. I am planning on doing a 2yr lease and the MF and residuals are good, i was just hoping to get the car in the 25K range. any ideas ( I live in PA)
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Re: mini select [megirn] by Car_man HOST
Feb 11, 2009 (2:52 am)
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Replying to: megirn (Jan 21, 2009 6:20 am)

Hey megirn. Most banks that lease vehicles charge consumers a security deposit that is equivalent to their vehicle's monthly payment rounded up to the nearest $25 or $50 increment.
 
The battery, tires, and other fees that you mentioned are likely legitimate charges that are levied by your state.
 
Doc fees on the other hand aren't really anything more than a way for dealers to pad their profit in deals. Adding insult to injury, a $600 doc fee is particularly high. Look at this fee as part of your car's total selling price. If the price that you are getting it for, including this charge, is less than you would have to pay for it elsewhere...then go for it. If you think that this fee makes the price that you are being charged unreasonably high, then comparison shop with a few other dealers.
 
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Re: 2009 Mini Cooper Lease [toky] by Car_man HOST
Feb 11, 2009 (2:58 am)
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Replying to: toky (Jan 21, 2009 12:18 pm)

Hi toky. On most vehicles, consumers who shop around are able to find a dealer that will charge them the dealer buy rate on leases...particularly in today's difficult retail environment.
 
The money factors for all Mini models are exactly the same.
 
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