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MINI Cooper Lease Questions

282 messages,  Last post on Nov 05, 2009 at 2:24 PM

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Re: 2009 Mini Cooper Lease [jon330cic] by rocku
Jan 17, 2009 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: jon330cic (Jan 17, 2009 6:58 am)

J.
 
Please help me understand this downpayment thing.
Banks are pay interest next to zero these dates. MF 0025 is 6% APR.
If I don't carry any debt and have decent saving in the bank.
Any reason why shouldn't I go for it?
 
Thank you for your time.
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Re: 2009 Mini Cooper Lease [rocku] by jon330cic
Jan 17, 2009 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: rocku (Jan 17, 2009 10:21 am)

Again, you should read through the many threads that have been posted on this subject. Probably the biggest reason is should you total your car during the lease you will likely lose every $ of your downpayment.
 
Instead, I would suggest the Multiple Security Deposit program, which will reduce the MF, and you will get the $$ back should the car be totalled. Ask your dealer or read up on the forums. When I did my lease, the ROI on the 7 security deposits I made calculated to about 8%/year - which is a no-brainer given other investment options these days.
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Mini Coopers S Lease Question-HELP by jorgedbernal
Jan 17, 2009 (4:23 pm)
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Hello CarMan... I have a lease question, Im wondering whether I should pull the trigger on this deal. Here are the stats...this deal is in Miami, Florida.
 
2009 Mini Cooper S
MSRP: 27450.00
Selling price $25950.00
Money Factor: 0.00290
Residual Value 67%
Lease end value $18391.56
$602.19 Cash Down
Total Add Cap Cost: $925.00
$2000 Inception
36 Month Lease
10k miles
Monthly Payment $372.85 including tax.
 
FYI: These figures were taken directly from the Mini Saleperson worksheet, I took a picture of it and can email it to you if you need to look it over. Is this a good deal? We walked out, and 15 minutes later we got a call saying that the lowest they can go is $342.00 including tax. What should I do? Please help and thank you!!!
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Mini Cooper Lease Question by megirn
Jan 20, 2009 (7:42 am)
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I am considering a lease offer for a 2009 Mini Cooper (MSRP $20,450.) for $199. It is for 36 months, 10,000 miles/year, plus tax, tag, title and dealer pre-delivery service fee of $599.95. $2,500. due at lease signing. Does this sound like a good deal? Any questions we need to ask them? Thank you for your assistance.
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Re: mini select [mgm11937] by Car_man HOST
Jan 21, 2009 (3:11 am)
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Replying to: mgm11937 (Jan 06, 2009 4:05 pm)

Hi mgm11937. I believe that BMW's money factors for Mini vary by region. They should generally be around .00230 to .00280 though. Its residual values fore Mini are the same nationwide. The 36 month, 15,000 mile peer year residual value for a 2009 Mini Cooper S Hatchback is currently 64%.
 
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Re: 2009 Mini Cooper Lease [toky] by Car_man HOST
Jan 21, 2009 (3:31 am)
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Replying to: toky (Jan 10, 2009 4:56 pm)

Hi toky. Despite the implosion in the auto industry, Mini sales have held up fairly well. If I was in the market for a base Mini Cooper right now I personally would shoot for a dealer discount of around $1,000.
 
BMW's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a base 2009 Mini Cooper with 12,000 miles per year should be around .00240 and 69%, respectively (man, what an amazing resid).
 
I see that you are considering making a $1,999 down payment on this car. It is in your best interest not to make any capitalized cost reduction when leasing. I always advise consumers not to do so because if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered, there is a good chance that any cap cost reduction that was paid will disappear.
 
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Re: Mini Coopers S Lease Question-HELP [jorgedbernal] by Car_man HOST
Jan 21, 2009 (3:37 am)
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Replying to: jorgedbernal (Jan 17, 2009 4:23 pm)

Hi jorgedbernal. The selling price that you were quoted for this car looks good to me, but you may be able to shave another couple hundred dollars off. The money factor looks slightly high, but it varies by region so I don't know what the exact number should be in your neck of the woods. The dealer is likely marking it up a little. If you have the time, it wouldn't hurt to get a quote from another dealer or two to see what sort of money factor they quote you.
 
Obviously, the $342 payment is a lot more attractive than the $372 payment that you were initially quoted. You should find out what selling price and money factor were used to arrive at the new deal.
 
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Re: Mini Cooper Lease Question [megirn] by Car_man HOST
Jan 21, 2009 (3:41 am)
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Replying to: megirn (Jan 20, 2009 7:42 am)

HI megirn. The best way to evaluate whether this is a good deal is to look at the selling price that this lease is based upon and the money factor that was used to calculate the monthly payment. These are the two main profit centers for dealers on leases. Let us know what these numbers are and I'm sure that either myself or another helpful community member will be glad to give you their opinion.
 
One thing that I noticed about this deal is the large amount of money that is due at lease signing. I always advise consumers not to make any capitalized cost reduction when leasing. Those who make them risk losing part or all of them if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered. Even though it means that your monthly payment will be slightly higher, you will be better off going with a zero down lease.
 
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Re: mini select [Car_man] by megirn
Jan 21, 2009 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 21, 2009 3:11 am)

Are fees for dealer doc. fee ($600.), battery, tires, doc stamps (218.), security (225.), up front taxes (253.) normal fees or just profit for this particular dealership?
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Re: 2009 Mini Cooper Lease [Car_man] by toky
Jan 21, 2009 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 21, 2009 3:31 am)

The dealership was giving a hard time going lower than 0.0029 MF. Credit score is 770.
 
They started at MF of 0.0031 and came down to 0.0029. I think he said something about the dealer buys the money at 0.0025.
 
Doc fees of $395 and registration fee of $200.
 
Would the MF be different for Cooper S rather than a non-S? And if so, what should it be for a Cooper S?

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