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Re: 2007 S550 Residual / Money Factor [juice1220] by delta737h
Aug 07, 2007 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: juice1220 (Aug 07, 2007 1:34 pm)

Hey Julius,
 
Sorry to hear about your day from hell. Anything I can do to help (lol)? I do hope that things are going much smoother for you now.
 
Regarding my book; I couldn't agree with you more. Many people are just brain lazy and have their priorities all screwed up. Academics in this country takes a back seat to everything else and sports occupies all the front row seats which is why we have to import all that magnificent foreign brain power (Asians) to do our math, science, and engineering. How this nation is going to compete in a very tough and competitive global market 10 or 15 years downstream is a mystery to me. We have some very fine young talent but the problem is that we don't have enough of them to meet future demand.
 
Anyway, I refuse to cater to the ignorance of the masses in this country even though it will severely compromise my royalty income. So many authors pacify their readership by over simplifying complicated concepts. Anytime you simplify something that is inherently complicated, you necessarily risk distorting it and that I will not do. I cringe when I browse through the "pop" books on car leasing. You can't begin to imagine the number of mistakes that I see and that goes for just about any other "pop" book. I'm sick of a nation loaded with sports fanatics and World Federation Wrestling TV-watching morons. TV programming, newspapers, and advertisements speak volumes about the intelligence of a nation. My book is not meant for everyone. Anyone who reads it will have to have a strong academic orientation, be disciplined and motivated, and commit themselves to some very serious study. It will be no Sunday afternoon stroll in the park.
 
Wishing you a better tomorrow...
 
John
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Re: 2007 S550 Residual / Money Factor [delta737h] by juice1220
Aug 08, 2007 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: delta737h (Aug 07, 2007 2:41 pm)

Good Morning !
 
Well a new day is here, and hope it will be much better than yesterday. For some reason when the morning starts with a bad thing, it just keeps building and every deal has something wrong. A car we had to deliver had a scratch magically appear in the rear bumper, and we wont deliver like that. Not fair to the customer. Then my tinting guy showed up an hour late with the customer waiting here, drivers license got lost from a deal, so literally everything went as smoothly as as a bad case of acne. But today is a new day, and hopefully a few "good" deals come my way, with some rate and aftersales in them. For me by the way a good deal is how much money is on the backend, I could care less if they give the car away at triple net. I hope you have a great day ! Hey, do you think anyone else reads our daily chats?
 
Julius
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Re: 2007 S550 Residual / Money Factor [juice1220] by delta737h
Aug 08, 2007 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: juice1220 (Aug 08, 2007 4:33 am)

Well, glad to hear your day is better. Compared to yesterday, it sounds as though you only have one direction to go. Does anyone read our chats? I sure hope so because they're very informative and enlightening. Besides, whenever I vent, I want everyone to hear me... lol!
 
Good day my friend.
 
John
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Re: 2007 S550 Residual / Money Factor [delta737h] by britcrlvr
Aug 11, 2007 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: delta737h (Aug 05, 2007 3:56 pm)

You hit it right on the head. Who gives a flying f--- about dealerships or salespeople. Whenever I go to purchase cars I consider it my #1 objective to rip off the dealership. I don't care if I have to bully, harass, or anything else. The fact is if one dealership is unwilling to give me exactly what I want I know there is one out there that will. Glad that someone has some sense and sees dealerships and salespeople as what they truly are: slimy individuals.
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Re: 2007 S550 Residual / Money Factor [britcrlvr] by delta737h
Aug 13, 2007 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: britcrlvr (Aug 11, 2007 3:25 pm)

brit,
 
I don't think I would label them all as slimy individuals. However, they're definitely not the brightest bulbs on the chandelier. If they were, they'd be selling toilet seats to the government at $10K a pop. Of course, they'd have to qualify as being both bright and slimy to do that job.
 
John
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Re: 2007 S550 Residual / Money Factor [britcrlvr] by juice1220
Aug 14, 2007 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: britcrlvr (Aug 11, 2007 3:25 pm)

Ahhh Brit,
Your words are so kind and gentle. The intelligence is just oozing out of you. Since your #1 objective is to rip off the car dealer, I am sure you have gotten ripped off in the past, and now you are just bitter. Maybe in the future you will get ripped off again, or just not given the treatment you think you deserve, because of the attitude you are starting the deal with. Good luck.
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Re: 2007 S550 Residual / Money Factor [britcrlvr] by juice1220
Aug 14, 2007 (5:03 am)
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Replying to: britcrlvr (Aug 11, 2007 3:25 pm)

John,
 
You surprised me be responding in the way you did. Brit is definitely not the person who would buy your book.
 
J
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Re: 2007 S550 Residual / Money Factor [juice1220] by delta737h
Aug 14, 2007 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: juice1220 (Aug 14, 2007 5:03 am)

juice,
 
As I indicated, not all sales people are slimy. It's true that most car salesmen are not among the best and brightest. They can't even converse intelligently about car leasing. Most of them can't calculate a lease payment... that's disgraceful! And forget about them doing a lease v. buy analysis... they haven't a clue.
 
They can't make decisions which is why they're constantly running back and forth to their sales managers. So that reduces them to no more than order takers and is why they're expendable.
 
When I FAX/email lease proposals, I always send them to either the GM or the F&I guy. I won't waste my time dealing with floor sales personnel. Why??? Because they're NOT decision makers. I want someone who can make a decision.
 
Also, my book is not going to target dealership sales people only because they're simply not interested in academic pursuits. This book is for the academically motivated and most car salesmen, unfortunately, do not fall into this category. In fact, most Americans don't fall into that category. That's why we have to import all that magnificent foreign brain power to do math, science, and engineering.
 
If brit feels he's been screwed, perhaps he should educate himself and buy my book. Otherwise, it doesn't do much good to complain if you're not going to take the time and effort required to educate yourself. The price of stupidity is sky high.
 
I make no apologies for what I've said because that's the reality. Sad, but true.
 
John
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reply by britcrlvr
Aug 14, 2007 (1:46 pm)
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no actually the last deal I made I offered 63K for an 07 Jag XJ8L and was accepted. In my book I came out ahead.
 
2 although you claim that faxing over a number to the dealership helps you get the best deal, you have already played your hand, and they have the position over you. It would be better for you to wait and let the dealership make the first offer. as you insinuated stupidity has no limits.

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