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Mercedes-Benz S-Class Lease Questions

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Leasing a used S500 by eric312
Feb 07, 2007 (7:51 pm)
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Does MB offer leases on used S500s? Does MB extend original warranty for the duration of the lease?
How much should i expect to pay for 2004 S500 on a 0 down 36 months 10K miles lease?
Thank you
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2007 S550 Lease Question by markwhoeman
Feb 23, 2007 (9:15 am)
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I want to lease a 2007 S550 and understand that a number of leasing companies offer prices that are lower than MB leasing. Has anyone had any experience with these companies?
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CPO vs new by topspin628
Jun 28, 2007 (11:26 am)
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I was looking at 05-06 cpo S classes and trying to make the math work out. Some help please? I usually lease but CPOs don't lease out well. So, if one were comparing a 60 K 5 series or E Class, the lease would be around 900 per month tax in the payment for 36 months and 15,000 miles per year. You'd have to finance the 55-60 K CPO car, pay all of the tax (not just on your payments) and probably put in some service money (new tires? brakes- not a certainty but should be budgeted). So let's est monthly payments at about 1700 per month with interest. At the end of the 3 years (without service) you paid in about 29 K more than for the lease and you have a 5 year old car that's probably worth maybe 30K? So if my numbers are close and please correct if not, you would wash
out but you would have the risk that the car could be worth less and you would most likely have had to put in 1-2K for repairs of wear items not covered by the cpo warranty. So I'm guessing that to buy the 60K cpo S class is a more expensive prop than to lease a new 60K E class. I would welcome and clarification and correction. If so, then, cpo selling and leasing needs to change a bit for me to take part.
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Re: 2007 S550 Lease Question [markwhoeman] by juice1220
Jun 29, 2007 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: markwhoeman (Feb 23, 2007 9:15 am)

The lowest monthly payment is not always the "best" monthly payment. I am a dealer and thats all the help I will give.
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Re: CPO vs new [topspin628] by juice1220
Jun 29, 2007 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 28, 2007 11:26 am)

Why would CPO change for you? Cpo programs are great deals. The original owner has already taken the biggest hit on the car, by buying it and then trading it in. You are not looking at it in the right way. You can get alot more car in the pre owned department than in the new. You do not get your brakes covered in the new department either. Unless you buy a BMW. Lets never forget that a vehicle is a depreciating asset, and you will never get the money back that you invested.
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Re: CPO vs new [juice1220] by topspin628
Jun 29, 2007 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: juice1220 (Jun 29, 2007 6:46 pm)

I also figured that the first owner would have taken the biggest hit and that the cpo would be a better deal but I just can't seem to make the numbers work out. I can lease a 60K BMW for 900 per month including tax. Please show me how a 60K CPO purchase financed comes out to the better financial deal (less money lost) than the lease? Perhaps it doesn't because you have to pay or finance the tax and the entire amount vs the just the difference between purchase price and residual of a lease? Thank you for your help in understanding this.
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Re: CPO vs new [topspin628] by juice1220
Jun 29, 2007 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 29, 2007 7:09 pm)

The bottom line is when you lease a car, at the end you have absolutley nothing. Regardless of what you spent you still have not a penny to your name. When you buy, you will at least have something to put down on your next purchase. It also depends on how frequently you want to get a new vehicle. Also lets keep in mind if you finance a car they are simple interest loans and you can prepay at antime, and not pay interest if you prepay.
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Re: CPO vs new [juice1220] by topspin628
Jun 29, 2007 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: juice1220 (Jun 29, 2007 7:28 pm)

Yes, I understand this and I'm looking at the 900 per month on the lease as lost vs what I will have invested and not re-couped at trade in time on the purchased CPO. What I am trying to decide between is a late model MB S Class 06 with low millage vs a new E Class or 5 series on a lease. I would probably keep the CPO car for 2-3 years depending if I was running into maintanince costs. Is there any place that I could find out what the expected depreciation would be on the CPO? I guess then I would be able to predict (estimate)what my end of term cost would be.
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Calling Car Man by topspin628
Jul 10, 2007 (5:23 am)
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Can you give me a bit of guidance on my above posts on the CPO purchase vs new purchase benefits/costs? I don't see a clear advantage of buying a CPO vs leasing a new version with the lower monthly payments even when one adds in the fact that they will own the CPO and thus have some equity at the end of the term. The reduced payments seem to make up for it and when you factor in not paying tax on the entire amount with the lease (8% on 60K for the purchase vs 8% on the lease payments only, the additional maintainance for the CPO, lower money factor on the new lease etc) at best it's a wash. Plus one has the "risk" of the CPO not holding its value as anticipated, the potential value of investing the extra money from the lower payments elsewhere etc.
Please enlighten me on the high end CPO benefits IF one doesn't plan on keeping the car for more than 4 years.
Thanks.
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Re: Calling Car Man [topspin628] by juice1220
Jul 10, 2007 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jul 10, 2007 5:23 am)

There is really no advantage to buying a CPO verses lease. Especially if you are the kind of person that likes to get a new car every 3-4 years. In a lease you know that everything is covered and your out of pocket expense is at a minimum. But as i said it all depends on driving habits and time you wish to keep a car.

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