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Mercedes-Benz S-Class Lease Questions

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Re: Mercedes Balloon Financing [tristanhunt] by juice1220
Aug 08, 2006 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: tristanhunt (Aug 08, 2006 12:12 am)

in a nutshell, balloons are the combination of lease and finance. You are restricted to miles wear and tear, etc... At the end of the term you have the option to buy the car at the balloon payment or turn the car back in. I have been with Mercedes for a while, and have yet to do a balloon. Balloon is also registered to the buyer and not the bank, so the bank has no real responsibility to the vehicle. So Gap insurance is not included, in a balloon. That is something you definitely need to buy, to be on the safe side. Also find out what is the disposition fee on a balloon, if you decide not to buy the car, or if you are stuck with buying the car at the end.
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Re: Mercedes Balloon Financing [juice1220] by tristanhunt
Aug 08, 2006 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: juice1220 (Aug 08, 2006 5:08 am)

Thanks so much for your response. I know you haven't done one of these balloons at benz yourself, but I did have two more questions, as my last 3 mercs I did cash buys and the only car i've ever financed is my mother's audi, 0% financing, but I really like the idea of pre-tax dollars from my business paying for this:
 
Do I assume downside risk, say the car is worth less than the balloon payment and I want to turn it in, do I have any obligation to pay the difference between the balloon payment and the determined market value? (Aside from any disposition fees)
 
Because the car is titled in my name (or ostensibly in the name of my business), do I get to write down the whole monthly payment less inclusions or do i have to write down depreciation? Since I'm only financing and paying for the amount used, is it still a lease as far as the IRS is concerned?
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S550 Pricing by gusb1
Sep 22, 2006 (10:02 am)
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My dealership is suddenly offering $1,000 over invoice and buy rate (currently 00375)for a lease. This seems to be a good deal...? Dealer claims it's just because times are tough, but does anyone know if something different is planned for the 08 model years? Does this sound like a good deal?
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Leasing a used S500 by eric312
Feb 07, 2007 (7:51 pm)
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Does MB offer leases on used S500s? Does MB extend original warranty for the duration of the lease?
How much should i expect to pay for 2004 S500 on a 0 down 36 months 10K miles lease?
Thank you
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2007 S550 Lease Question by markwhoeman
Feb 23, 2007 (9:15 am)
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I want to lease a 2007 S550 and understand that a number of leasing companies offer prices that are lower than MB leasing. Has anyone had any experience with these companies?
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CPO vs new by topspin628
Jun 28, 2007 (11:26 am)
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I was looking at 05-06 cpo S classes and trying to make the math work out. Some help please? I usually lease but CPOs don't lease out well. So, if one were comparing a 60 K 5 series or E Class, the lease would be around 900 per month tax in the payment for 36 months and 15,000 miles per year. You'd have to finance the 55-60 K CPO car, pay all of the tax (not just on your payments) and probably put in some service money (new tires? brakes- not a certainty but should be budgeted). So let's est monthly payments at about 1700 per month with interest. At the end of the 3 years (without service) you paid in about 29 K more than for the lease and you have a 5 year old car that's probably worth maybe 30K? So if my numbers are close and please correct if not, you would wash
out but you would have the risk that the car could be worth less and you would most likely have had to put in 1-2K for repairs of wear items not covered by the cpo warranty. So I'm guessing that to buy the 60K cpo S class is a more expensive prop than to lease a new 60K E class. I would welcome and clarification and correction. If so, then, cpo selling and leasing needs to change a bit for me to take part.
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Re: 2007 S550 Lease Question [markwhoeman] by juice1220
Jun 29, 2007 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: markwhoeman (Feb 23, 2007 9:15 am)

The lowest monthly payment is not always the "best" monthly payment. I am a dealer and thats all the help I will give.
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Re: CPO vs new [topspin628] by juice1220
Jun 29, 2007 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 28, 2007 11:26 am)

Why would CPO change for you? Cpo programs are great deals. The original owner has already taken the biggest hit on the car, by buying it and then trading it in. You are not looking at it in the right way. You can get alot more car in the pre owned department than in the new. You do not get your brakes covered in the new department either. Unless you buy a BMW. Lets never forget that a vehicle is a depreciating asset, and you will never get the money back that you invested.
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Re: CPO vs new [juice1220] by topspin628
Jun 29, 2007 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: juice1220 (Jun 29, 2007 6:46 pm)

I also figured that the first owner would have taken the biggest hit and that the cpo would be a better deal but I just can't seem to make the numbers work out. I can lease a 60K BMW for 900 per month including tax. Please show me how a 60K CPO purchase financed comes out to the better financial deal (less money lost) than the lease? Perhaps it doesn't because you have to pay or finance the tax and the entire amount vs the just the difference between purchase price and residual of a lease? Thank you for your help in understanding this.
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Re: CPO vs new [topspin628] by juice1220
Jun 29, 2007 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 29, 2007 7:09 pm)

The bottom line is when you lease a car, at the end you have absolutley nothing. Regardless of what you spent you still have not a penny to your name. When you buy, you will at least have something to put down on your next purchase. It also depends on how frequently you want to get a new vehicle. Also lets keep in mind if you finance a car they are simple interest loans and you can prepay at antime, and not pay interest if you prepay.

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