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Re: Finally got my E350 4 MATIC SPORT [vchad] by kauffman1974
Jul 09, 2008 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: vchad (Jul 09, 2008 1:54 pm)

Thanks Vchad,
 
Based on my calculations on what the dealer offered me, I was coming in at approx $510 a month (which included tax). My response to the dealer and their subsequent reply is as follows:
 
 ME: I've run my own lease calculation analysis and for some reason I'm coming up with a much lower monthly payment than what you have noted below. With a base cap cost of 47,044 and a net cap cost of 45,994 (47,044 - 1050 down) and using the .00085 money factor with 8.5% sales tax on a 27 month lease, I'm coming up with a payment of $510.92 which includes the taxes. Based on this, I have a depreciation amount of 10,852, with a finance charge of 1,862 and tax of 1,170.
 
DEALER: You are missing a few things but I cannot tell you how your software works. I will be more than happy to show you my software when you get here. Your adjusted cap cost before you take out your down payment is $48, 682.84 You did not factor in the 1095 acquisition fee, 45 doc fee, your dmv lisence of $381 and the bluetooth adaptor of $510 which I included in your lease.
 
I have no idea how, based on the initial deal they presented that they came up with a $48,682 adjusted cap cost. Thanks for the heads up on the moneyfactor.
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Re: Any lease option & price details on this lease?? [jets80] by 1985mb
Jul 09, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: jets80 (Jul 09, 2008 11:26 am)

Technically that IS zero down, as "1st month, plus inception fee, plus tags/title" are not down payments a.k.a. cap cost reduction.
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Re: Finally got my E350 4 MATIC SPORT [kauffman1974] by vchad
Jul 09, 2008 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: kauffman1974 (Jul 09, 2008 2:02 pm)

Hey Kauffman... yeah make sure you go over there #"s. First off, the Acquisition fee is NOT $1095. I dont know why they are misleading you...i KNOW for a FACT its not more than $750.
 
Your sales tax is a little higher than mine(6%)..so a few more hundred there. THe blue tooth adapater...is sold at cost for 400.
 
The problem with your cap cost is...he's not giving you employee price...thats the main difference. You mentioned a 1k down or so....My down payment included the Acquisition fee. So there is no need for him to add it to your cap cost.
 
If i were you...i would NOT pay more than First month + Acquis fee + tags.
 
And the money factor...he's clearly trying to decieve you. Somehow this dealer doesn't sit well with me. He's misleading you on Acquis fee and MF. Be careful with these guys...
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Re: Any lease option & price details on this lease?? [ksoman] by kroach
Jul 09, 2008 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: ksoman (Jul 09, 2008 1:26 pm)

Ksoman,
Thanks for the reply thats kind of what I thought too. Its just hard to believe that you can get this kind of car for under $600 per month. I guess what really threw me was that another dealer would not beat or even match the deal that I got.
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Re: Finally got my E350 4 MATIC SPORT [vchad] by kauffman1974
Jul 09, 2008 (2:28 pm)
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Replying to: vchad (Jul 09, 2008 2:12 pm)

Hey Vchad,
 
I'm definitely not getting employee pricing and I'm ok with that since its such a hard thing to manage to get in the first place. I just want to make sure I'm getting the best deal I can on this car. I know my monthly payments should be somewhere below the $600 mark. I'll let you all know where I end up.
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Re: Finally got my E350 4 MATIC SPORT [vchad] by kauffman1974
Jul 09, 2008 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: vchad (Jul 09, 2008 2:12 pm)

So I questioned my dealer on the acquisition fee and money factor and here was there response:
 
DEALER: Where are you getting these numbers from? Whoever is trying to confuse you has no idea what they are talking about.
 
I think its time to move on to another dealer here in socal.
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Re: Finally got my E350 4 MATIC SPORT [kauffman1974] by vchad
Jul 09, 2008 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: kauffman1974 (Jul 09, 2008 2:53 pm)

Hey Kauffman.
 
I'm sorry to hear this dealership is being so dishonest. Your in cali, i'm sure you prolly have plenty of MB dealers around..shop around.
 
About the Aquis fee. http://www.mbusa.com/models/main.do?modelCode=E350W
 
it says it right on there...i was off by $45..its $795. It amazes me...the audacity this idiot has in telling that your being misled. Perhaps you should tell him to read his own companys website.
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Re: Finally got my E350 4 MATIC SPORT [vchad] by kauffman1974
Jul 09, 2008 (4:20 pm)
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Replying to: vchad (Jul 09, 2008 4:10 pm)

Yep, he told me all California dealers mark up the $795 fee to $1095. I'm just not buying that.
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Re: Finally got my E350 4 MATIC SPORT [vchad] by sunofny99
Jul 09, 2008 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: vchad (Jul 08, 2008 4:06 pm)

Hey Vchad, can you send me your dealers info. The deal you got is INSANE!!! I'm from NY and if they are willing to ship it here, heck, i'll even fly there to sign papers.
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Re: Any lease option & price details on this lease?? [kroach] by ocautoseeker
Jul 10, 2008 (12:41 am)
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Replying to: kroach (Jul 09, 2008 9:08 am)

Money factor looks high - should be .00030 for 4-matic models. For 2wd models it should be .00085. Yes, these are July rates.

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